BTW Yak, I got that that low round kick delivered with the shin from Rene Latosa. I personally think his concepts have really fleshed out my MA. Way back in the early 80s when I was looking for an FMA instructor, I remember LT being totally opposed to any of us in the core group training outside of his WT. Then one afternoon when LT had us all at a table opening and sorting his US mail (separating the junk mail from legit inquiries I came across a correspondence from Rene Latosa. My si-dai, not recognizing the name had thrown it into the trash, so I rescued it and handed it over to Si-fu ...but not before I jotted down the return address.
You see, I knew that if I could train with Rene, Sifu would still put up with me and not kick me out since he and Rene knew each other well and did business together with the EWTO. It was a rare case of me scheming like my Si-fu.
And, for once, things worked out as planned. I got to learn a really practical version of FMA as I continued to learn from LT for another ten or twelve years. Eventually, my free thinking (and mediocre ability) sort of side-lined me, but looking back, branching out into Escrima was really worth it. Oddly enough, I feel I've come to understand WT/WC better for it.