Claims on the Internet.

[DAC..florida]

Originally posted by chufeng


Now we are to believe that DAC is an 8th dan in about 16 different arts?



I will be more careful about pissing him off in the future...

DAC...do you REALLY post that kind of rank???
Give me a break...
8th dan in ONE art is a lifetime endeavor...and not one that one actually seeks, but which catches up to him as his training progresses...

I honestly hope you never run into a REAL 5th dan...
He'll eat your lunch...

Aren't you just a little embarrassed to post the "bio" that you've posted?
Aren't you just a little bit ashamed of shamming those who look up to you?

Your claims are even more outrageous than your teacher's...

VERY disappointed in Puyallup...

chufeng

That bio that was posted earlier is not mine nor do I know whos it is I have no 8th dan and have only studied 2 different styles in my life, I dont even see anyones name attached to that bio you will have to ask the poster for that info.. I think that was just an ex. of one of the bio's he found.

 

[DAC..florida]

Originally posted by RyuShiKan
It would seem you guys take a lot of "short cuts"

You know nothing about us guys and sure do make alot of false alligations about people you dont know, the above post was not necessary I think you got my point no need for this crap.

I have respect for you and feel you bring alot of good info.. to this forum, but I also feel you make too many alligations and assumptions wich you can never back up. why?

 

[RyuShiKan]

Originally posted by DAC..florida
You know nothing about us guys and sure do make alot of false alligations

For example?

Originally posted by DAC..florida
I have respect for you……..

Do you always call people you respect an “idiot”?
I would shudder to think what you call someone you didn’t respect.

 

[DAC..florida]

Originally posted by RyuShiKan
For example?



Do you always call people you respect an “idiot”?
I would shudder to think what you call someone you didn’t respect.

I was very agravated on that day and try to refrain from name calling. I made a general apology for the name calling to everyone on the recieving end and it was sincere.


Example: you guys seem to take alot of short cuts!

HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY KNOW THIS! :asian:

 

[MartialArtist]

Originally posted by DAC..florida
I do not want this to turn into another bashing that goes on for two months.
Schultz doesnt have the yuk dan its me Ive been a student of TKD since I was 7 and am now 28 three organizations that recognize it are The Korean Yudo and Hapkido ***.
The Dong Koo Yudo Kwon
The world TKD Federation

Please dont drag this topic on to long I chose not to post my rank here for a reason now that its out theres your proof but thats all I am willing to post.

WOW! The WTF recognizes your yuk dan?

I wouldn't know anything at all, since I've been studying before the age of 7, and have trained from Korea from around 7 to almost my high school years with drill instructors. Hopefully, at 28, you don't have grandchildren. It took me over a decade to get my il dan. Call me jealous, because I want a yuk dan. The average age for a yuk dan holder is around the high 40s to 50s. You realize that if you already have a yuk dan at 28, you are one of a kind.

And if recognized by the WTF, all I have to do is call them and ask what the youngest yuk dan they have. If 28 or younger is the answer, then I will believe you. It doesn't matter if that 28 year old is you or not, that is enough proof for me. However, a more realistic answer would be somewhere the early 40s or maybe even the late 30s.

 

[MartialArtist]

Originally posted by DAC..florida
You know nothing about us guys and sure do make alot of false alligations about people you dont know, the above post was not necessary I think you got my point no need for this crap.

I have respect for you and feel you bring alot of good info.. to this forum, but I also feel you make too many alligations and assumptions wich you can never back up. why?

No need for this crap? With all due respect, all RyuShiKan has been posting is cold hard facts. After that, he always gives out his opinion based on those cold hard facts, which he is entitled to, while you are entitled to yours.

But please realize, that all the responses are not out of the blue, but based on the information placed on the website, the organizations the website announces relations with, the claims that are made, and by the demeanor of the given public that makes those claims.

I have never studied ARK, so I will not make assumptions. But, I can see how certain people can make assumptions based on many of the things said and it is their opinion. Whether you believe their opinions are based on facts or on air, is up to you. But remember, facts are not open for debate.

 

[DAC..florida]

Originally posted by MartialArtist
WOW! The WTF recognizes your yuk dan?

I wouldn't know anything at all, since I've been studying before the age of 7, and have trained from Korea from around 7 to almost my high school years with drill instructors. Hopefully, at 28, you don't have grandchildren. It took me over a decade to get my il dan. Call me jealous, because I want a yuk dan. The average age for a yuk dan holder is around the high 40s to 50s. You realize that if you already have a yuk dan at 28, you are one of a kind.

And if recognized by the WTF, all I have to do is call them and ask what the youngest yuk dan they have. If 28 or younger is the answer, then I will believe you. It doesn't matter if that 28 year old is you or not, that is enough proof for me. However, a more realistic answer would be somewhere the early 40s or maybe even the late 30s.

I have never been to thier headquarters or even filled out a member aplication but I do have an authentic certificate that recognizes my rank. Im not even sure if they know my age.
so if your going to check, look it up under my name.

 

[RyuShiKan]

Originally posted by DAC..florida
Example: you guys seem to take alot of short cuts!

HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY KNOW THIS! :asian:

I look at your website and see the claims to extremely high ranks in several arts and titles like “Master” or “Grandmaster”.
I call the HQ one of you claims rank in and they have never heard of you.

 

[DAC..florida]

Originally posted by MartialArtist
No need for this crap? With all due respect, all RyuShiKan has been posting is cold hard facts. After that, he always gives out his opinion based on those cold hard facts, which he is entitled to, while you are entitled to yours.

But please realize, that all the responses are not out of the blue, but based on the information placed on the website, the organizations the website announces relations with, the claims that are made, and by the demeanor of the given public that makes those claims.

I have never studied ARK, so I will not make assumptions. But, I can see how certain people can make assumptions based on many of the things said and it is their opinion. Whether you believe their opinions are based on facts or on air, is up to you. But remember, facts are not open for debate.

your right everyone has thier own opinion and is entitled to share it.

 

[RyuShiKan]

Originally posted by DAC..florida
I have never been to thier headquarters or even filled out a member aplication but I do have an authentic certificate that recognizes my rank. Im not even sure if they know my age.
so if your going to check, look it up under my name.

Then shut everyone up and make them look stupid by posting it.

 

[DAC..florida]

Originally posted by RyuShiKan
Then shut everyone up and make them look stupid by posting it.

I do not have a scanner or fax machine or I honestly would.

send me a PM with your mailing adress and I will send you a copy.

 

[RyuShiKan]

Originally posted by DAC..florida
I do not have a scanner or fax machine or I honestly would.

send me a PM with your mailing adress and I will send you a copy.

There are more than a few Kinko's, or similar places, you can get it scanned to a disk.

 

[MartialArtist]

Originally posted by DAC..florida
I was very agravated on that day and try to refrain from name calling. I made a general apology for the name calling to everyone on the recieving end and it was sincere.


Example: you guys seem to take alot of short cuts!

HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY KNOW THIS! :asian:

I think you just called me an ***

I do not want this to turn into another bashing that goes on for two months.
Schultz doesnt have the yuk dan its me Ive been a student of TKD since I was 7 and am now 28 three organizations that recognize it are The Korean Yudo and Hapkido ***.
The Dong Koo Yudo Kwon
The world TKD Federation

I have not made any personal attacks that were out of the blue. I was just pointing out some of the things that popped out at me. If somehow, that offended you because for pointing something out, and if it makes you feel better, then I'm sorry, but I stick by my statements. But no reason to call me an ***. I have not affiliated you with such catch phrases, and do you honestly believe posts such as the one above will help you at all?

Anyway, here are the details as of right now on the website...

874 yuk dans in the world minus Korea. That includes the entire world mind you. And that doesn't mean Korean ethnicity, or Korean nationality, but it means anyone not teaching in the US. There are only 51 9th dans in the world other than Korea, and luckily, I know of one teaching a few hours drive away from me.



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I didn't even have to call!!! Check this out... I posted the English version so you can see it with your own eyes.

http://www.kukkiwon.or.kr/eng/promotion/simsa0.asp?div=5

Age limit for 5th to 6th dan testing... 30 years (Born on December 31, 1972). And you need to have held your 5th dan for five years in order to test.

 

[RyuShiKan]

Not only are the false claims made by posers an insult to the real Martial Artists; they are an embarrassment to their community and a disgrace to their families. Imposters deceive and abuse the trust of students, and boast about stupid exploits; sometimes they even manage to fool acquaintances for an extended period of time... but eventually they will be discovered and exposed.

 

[RyuShiKan]

So for 7th dan you need:

7th ~ 8th Dan 8 years
(Those promoted to 7th Dan on December 31, 1994 or earlier) 44 years old or higher
(Born on December 31, 1958 or earlier

 

[MartialArtist]

An excerpt of the requirements...

5. Time for Poomsae training and time for practical tests
1) Date and place: Dec. 7, 2002 (Sat) 08:40, Kukkiwon arena
2) Poomsae training: 09:00-09:50
3) Opening ceremony: 10:00-10:10
4) Practical tests (Subject to change according to the number of applicants)
(1) Poomsae, Kyorugi and Kyukpa for promotion to 6th & 7th Dan: 10:20~
(2) Poomsae and Interview for promotion to 8th and 9th Dan: 10:20~


6. Kinds of Poomsae to be tested
Dan / Cls. Kinds of Poomsae to be tested
Applicant's selection Compulsory
6th Dan Taebaek, Pyongwon, Shipjin (Choose one) Jitae
7th Dan Pyongwon, Shipjin, Jitae (Choose one) Chunkwon
8th Dan Shipjin, Jitae, Chunkwon (Choose one) Hansoo
9th Dan Jitae, Chunkwon, Hansoo (Choose one) Ilyeo


7. Theme of the thesis
Dan to be applied for Theme
Korean residents (6th through 9th Dan) Methods to Promte the Operation of Taekwondo Dojang
Foreign residents (8th & 9th Dan) *Choose one
1. Development of Taekwondo Techniques
2. Taekwondo Spirit
3. Teachin Ideas Based on Experiences
4. Methods for Systematic Improvements




1) The thesis should be submitted on the day of the test.
2) Size of the thesis: at least 10 A4-sized (one A4-size = 700 characters) pages in Korean or English
3) Applicant cannot pass the test in the following cases:
(1) The title of the thesis does not relate with the content.
(2) The thesis includes content not good enough.
(3) The size of the thesis is not long enough.
(4) Two or more applicants submit the same thesis.




8. Documents to be submitted


1) Application form for promotion test (recommendation by a Taekwondo master
holding 9th Dan or higher or president of the member national association of the WTF in the pertinent
country
2) Curriculum vitae that includes the martial arts career
3) Foreigners of Korean origin should submit a document that certifies his/her residence outside Korea.

 

[MartialArtist]

Screenshot of the table on the website

Guess we were both wrong DAC. I was wrong, there probably are people with 6th dans that are younger than my estimations.

 

[MartialArtist]

But realize that the age expectations do not mean that there are any 53 year old 9th dans. Most 9th dans are over 60.

 

[DAC..florida]

Originally posted by MartialArtist
I think you just called me an ***


I have not made any personal attacks that were out of the blue. I was just pointing out some of the things that popped out at me. If somehow, that offended you because for pointing something out, and if it makes you feel better, then I'm sorry, but I stick by my statements. But no reason to call me an ***. I have not affiliated you with such catch phrases, and do you honestly believe posts such as the one above will help you at all?

Anyway, here are the details as of right now on the website...

874 yuk dans in the world minus Korea. That includes the entire world mind you. And that doesn't mean Korean ethnicity, or Korean nationality, but it means anyone not teaching in the US. There are only 51 9th dans in the world other than Korea, and luckily, I know of one teaching a few hours drive away from me.



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I didn't even have to call!!! Check this out... I posted the English version so you can see it with your own eyes.

http://www.kukkiwon.or.kr/eng/promotion/simsa0.asp?div=5

Age limit for 5th to 6th dan testing... 30 years (Born on December 31, 1972). And you need to have held your 5th dan for five years in order to test.

First of all both above quotes were not intended for you so dont take offence.

Thats some great info.. but again I dont think they know my age at least no-one ever asked me for it. Maybe if they knew my age they would not have recognized such rank, but I do have the certificates.

 

[RyuShiKan]

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