Why the hate between TMA and MMA?

[Headhunter]

No they don't.

I don't mean on that subject I mean on like different opinions about martial arts that I have that others won't have like you'll do something different to how I do it and that's perfectly fine

 

[Headhunter]

Oh my, you are amusing dear boy. What you do is get your defence in before anyone has been 'aggressive'...your word not mine, no one has been aggressive here, I've seen it when they are and trust me no one has been aggressive to you, unless of course you come from a sheltered background and think anyone who disagrees with you is 'aggressive'?
I don't see anyone criticising you for posting pictures, what I see is you complaining that people didn't see what you wanted them to see on a photo. Think about this logically, last night there was a much hyped boxing match on, if I post up a photo from that fight could you say from looking at it who won, which round it was, what won the fight for the winner? ( I'm not mentioning names or who won because not everyone may know yet) Of course you can't but if I post up a video you can see the information for yourself. See, a beginner's guide on how not to alienate people here.
In the meantime here's a song my Rainbows and Brownies sing, enjoy.

I also have to ask why this guy feels the need to write lol every sentence and put it in brackets

 

[Mou Meng Gung Fu]

I also have to ask why this guy feels the need to write lol every sentence and put it in brackets

Why does that even concern you? If I fart and it doesn't stink, will you ask 'why' for that too? You're just being an aggressor, like a grumpy old man who is never satisfied with anything. Why, why, why? No, no, no. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Man shut up (lol). Your arguments suck. You have no solid argument to aggress with. You completely neglect valid statements (like my response to your comment about MMA fighters being bull-headed). You make false claims by trying to twist my words out of context, even when my posts are there for everyone to see (lol). And you just plain suck at attacking me. You can't win a debate without cheating. There is no foundation in what you claim. This makes me question your skills as a martial artist. If you can't even talk the talk, what makes you think you can walk the walk? Seriously, you have no game.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

I don't mean on that subject I mean on like different opinions about martial arts that I have that others won't have like you'll do something different to how I do it and that's perfectly fine

That was a joke, HH.

 

[Mou Meng Gung Fu]

That was a joke, HH.

I will wear that dislike GP with a smile on my face. You see that post you disliked? That's me being the aggressor.

 

[Mou Meng Gung Fu]

Oh and I get it now, THAT'S why the sudden hostility (lol). It's because I mentioned a picture that people commented on. It's the same people (lol). I guess what I said to GP was offensive to all of them. Oops.

Oh well... Trump it.

 

[Headhunter]

Why does that even concern you? If I fart and it doesn't stink, will you ask 'why' for that too? You're just being an aggressor, like a grumpy old man who is never satisfied with anything. Why, why, why? No, no, no. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Man shut up (lol). Your arguments suck. You have no solid argument to aggress with. You completely neglect valid statements (like my response to your comment about MMA fighters being bull-headed). You make false claims by trying to twist my words out of context, even when my posts are there for everyone to see (lol). And you just plain suck at attacking me. You can't win a debate without cheating. There is no foundation in what you claim. This makes me question your skills as a martial artist. If you can't even talk the talk, what makes you think you can walk the walk? Seriously, you have no game.

And here it is. The fake little act has gone. You're right I am a grumpy old man but you're a little boy telling stories to his friends. Rightttt so I don't argue well that means I must suck as a martial artist? You do realise it's the other way round the ones who talk a good game are the ones who normally suck. I've been walking it longer than you've been alive. I've had 8-2 in boxing with 7 knockouts, 6-3 in kickboxing all 6 by ko and 1-0 in mma, black belt in kenpo karate, I've worked as a bouncer in numerous nightclubs and trained bouncers.

So yeah I'm not bothered by some guy who claims to have Invented a new style but can't show any of it. I have no game? Well guess what martial arts isn't a game you don't play martial arts.

 

[Tez3]

Why does that even concern you? If I fart and it doesn't stink, will you ask 'why' for that too? You're just being an aggressor, like a grumpy old man who is never satisfied with anything. Why, why, why? No, no, no. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Man shut up (lol). Your arguments suck. You have no solid argument to aggress with. You completely neglect valid statements (like my response to your comment about MMA fighters being bull-headed). You make false claims by trying to twist my words out of context, even when my posts are there for everyone to see (lol). And you just plain suck at attacking me. You can't win a debate without cheating. There is no foundation in what you claim. This makes me question your skills as a martial artist. If you can't even talk the talk, what makes you think you can walk the walk? Seriously, you have no game.

Oh my, so many issues! Ok about you farting..it can be the sing of serious medical issues so don't trivialise it.
'Aggressor' it doesn't mean what you think it does, you are using it to mean anyone who disagrees with you, would you prefer sycophancy?
'Your arguments suck', that means you don't actually have an answer for comments made so you attack. As for 'aggress' that's just too funny. Headhunter isn't 'claiming' anything, he's replying to your comments, you don't like those answers, you don't have to, no law against it but do stop with the accusations, it's boring and boorish.
I've no idea what you mean when you say 'cheating', that sadly is one of those phrases that sounded good as you typed it but is meaningless, one cannot cheat if one is simply writing an opinion. You also need to get over the idea that we post on here to 'win', MT isn't a competitive site, it's there for conversations and discussions not winning at who can post the most codswallop.
As for questioning skills at martial arts, that's just hypocritical because you were the one complaining people were questioning yours! Calm down and start posting as an adult ( I take you are one and not a young kid?) You need to stop seeing this place as aggressors and defendants, it isn't.

 

[Mou Meng Gung Fu]

And here it is. The fake little act has gone. You're right I am a grumpy old man but you're a little boy telling stories to his friends. Rightttt so I don't argue well that means I must suck as a martial artist? You do realise it's the other way round the ones who talk a good game are the ones who normally suck. I've been walking it longer than you've been alive. I've had 8-2 in boxing with 7 knockouts, 6-3 in kickboxing all 6 by ko and 1-0 in mma, black belt in kenpo karate, I've worked as a bouncer in numerous nightclubs and trained bouncers.

So yeah I'm not bothered by some guy who claims to have Invented a new style but can't show any of it

Apparently you are bothered by me, enough to tell me your whole life story (lol). Dude, whatever. I used to give a crap about statistics, but now I don't really care. So what? You did all those things for real? Well good for you. Does that intimidate me? Not really. I'm proud of you for having those accomplishments in your life, that's cool. I respect that. But that's about it. I'm not bothered by you at all. I'm not even afraid of you (lol).

 

[Headhunter]

Why does that even concern you? If I fart and it doesn't stink, will you ask 'why' for that too? You're just being an aggressor, like a grumpy old man who is never satisfied with anything. Why, why, why? No, no, no. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Man shut up (lol). Your arguments suck. You have no solid argument to aggress with. You completely neglect valid statements (like my response to your comment about MMA fighters being bull-headed). You make false claims by trying to twist my words out of context, even when my posts are there for everyone to see (lol). And you just plain suck at attacking me. You can't win a debate without cheating. There is no foundation in what you claim. This makes me question your skills as a martial artist. If you can't even talk the talk, what makes you think you can walk the walk? Seriously, you have no game.

Also if you want to question my skill I'd be happy to arrange a training session If you want it and we're in a realistically close enough area. Then I can see some of your style in action. And that's not a challenge to fight I don't do stupid things like that I mean simply to train I'm always up for learning

 

[Headhunter]

Apparently you are bothered by me, enough to tell me your whole life story (lol). Dude, whatever. I used to give a crap about statistics, but now I don't really care. So what? You did all those things for real? Well good for you. Does that intimidate me? Not really. I'm proud of you for having those accomplishments in your life, that's cool. I respect that. But that's about it. I'm not bothered by you at all. I'm not even afraid of you (lol).

Haha you are hilarious why would I want to scare you. I don't want to scare kids. You question someone's ability they're going to give you the truth you need to grow up

 

[Headhunter]

Oh my, so many issues! Ok about you farting..it can be the sing of serious medical issues so don't trivialise it.
'Aggressor' it doesn't mean what you think it does, you are using it to mean anyone who disagrees with you, would you prefer sycophancy?
'Your arguments suck', that means you don't actually have an answer for comments made so you attack. As for 'aggress' that's just too funny. Headhunter isn't 'claiming' anything, he's replying to your comments, you don't like those answers, you don't have to, no law against it but do stop with the accusations, it's boring and boorish.
I've no idea what you mean when you say 'cheating', that sadly is one of those phrases that sounded good as you typed it but is meaningless, one cannot cheat if one is simply writing an opinion. You also need to get over the idea that we post on here to 'win', MT isn't a competitive site, it's there for conversations and discussions not winning at who can post the most codswallop.
As for questioning skills at martial arts, that's just hypocritical because you were the one complaining people were questioning yours! Calm down and start posting as an adult ( I take you are one and not a young kid?) You need to stop seeing this place as aggressors and defendants, it isn't.

Apparently according to him I'm trying to scare him....funny thing is I actually defended him at first. But now I'm starting to agree more with dales opinion on him

 

[Mou Meng Gung Fu]

Oh my, so many issues! Ok about you farting..it can be the sing of serious medical issues so don't trivialise it.
'Aggressor' it doesn't mean what you think it does, you are using it to mean anyone who disagrees with you, would you prefer sycophancy?
'Your arguments suck', that means you don't actually have an answer for comments made so you attack. As for 'aggress' that's just too funny. Headhunter isn't 'claiming' anything, he's replying to your comments, you don't like those answers, you don't have to, no law against it but do stop with the accusations, it's boring and boorish.
I've no idea what you mean when you say 'cheating', that sadly is one of those phrases that sounded good as you typed it but is meaningless, one cannot cheat if one is simply writing an opinion. You also need to get over the idea that we post on here to 'win', MT isn't a competitive site, it's there for conversations and discussions not winning at who can post the most codswallop.
As for questioning skills at martial arts, that's just hypocritical because you were the one complaining people were questioning yours! Calm down and start posting as an adult ( I take you are one and not a young kid?) You need to stop seeing this place as aggressors and defendants, it isn't.

Well there are aggressive opinions, defensive opinions and neutral opinions then. So if MTalk isn't a competitive site, then maybe it shouldn't be promoted as such by its paying members. There is no need for aggression. It doesn't feel too good to be on the receiving end of an aggressive opinion, does it?

 

[Paul_D]

MMA training can be applied to SD so easily though.

It is easy to think that if you are ignorant of the realities of criminal violence, or your definition of SD is men getting into street fights.

That being said, if you give a MMA fighter a knife, baton or a gun, what do you have?

Someone with a weapon they are not trained to use.

 

[RTKDCMB]

That was a joke, HH.

I disagree.

 

[Mou Meng Gung Fu]

It is easy to think thatif you are ignorant of the realities of criminal violence, or your definition of SD is men getting into street fights.


Someone with a weapon they are not trained to use.

Self Defense (SD) to me means the ability or skills to 'avoid' street fights. Are you suggesting that MMA fighters can't avoid a street fight? SD to me also means the ability or skills to defend oneself from an attack on the streets. Are you suggesting MMA fighters can't defend themselves on the streets? Or are you using a different understanding of what SD is entirely? And are you suggesting that a MMA fighter is incapable of using a weapon properly? Because that's what it sounds like. I mean, I don't really train with weapons to be honest. I train unarmed for the most part. But if I picked up a knife, it wouldn't make much difference. My structure wouldn't change. My technique wouldn't change. My training wouldn't change one bit. I'd still be doing the same thing, just with a knife. So again, I don't understand the point you're trying to emphasize. Please clarify. Thank you.

 

[RTKDCMB]

Now I could train rubbish downward elbow on the chance that in self defence someone will throw rubbish double legs. But why would i?

The last time I saw a downward elbow to a fighter performing a double leg in an MMA fight, it was to the back of the head, the fighter who was elbowed immediately could not continue and won by disqualification.

 

[drop bear]

The last time I saw a downward elbow to a fighter performing a double leg in an MMA fight, it was to the back of the head, the fighter who was elbowed immediately could not continue and won by disqualification.

Last time I saw one mr downward elbow wound up on his back getting bashed.

 

[Headhunter]

Well there are aggressive opinions, defensive opinions and neutral opinions then. So if MTalk isn't a competitive site, then maybe it shouldn't be promoted as such by its paying members. There is no need for aggression. It doesn't feel too good to be on the receiving end of an aggressive opinion, does it?

Hey do you hear that? It's the worlds smallest violin

 

[drop bear]

It's not a "rubbish downward elbow" if, in fact, a "rubbish double legs" shows up. That's the point. It's not a useful tool against a trained grappler, but it actually can be used against something that isn't a good double-leg. It's not waiting around for a bad double-leg to show up, it's using what works in the situation. A downward elbow is not a different thing that takes a lot of training. Most of us train elbows, anyway. And most of us are competent to deliver them downward. So, if something shows up that a downward elbow works on, I'll use it, instead of a sprawl. Why? Because the sprawl sacrifices stability, mobility, and field of view. If that's what's needed, then that's what I'll do, but I'm not going to do it against an attack where a downward elbow would work. Oh, and neither would Demetrius Johnson, I expect. If his opponent stumbled the entry to a double-leg, he might just get a downward elbow, too (though there are other options I'd rather use in most cases).

There is a difference between hitting them with someone on the fly if they have messed up and training something low percentage as your go to defence.