My comments are not directed at Navin as a person who I met once in Toronto( we did not chi sao). I did share briefly with him a wing chun defense against some one coming in low..
I appreciate that Joy, and I do remember you sharing a wing chun defense against some one coming in low. I can honestly say I enjoyed the conversations we had over coffee with my sihing Roy, however you are inaccurate about a few things in your post.
Navin's first teacher learned from a Moy Yat student who built a chain of schools in Canada.
My first wing chun teacher was a senior student of Moy Yat's from Hong Kong, his name is Sunny Tang (Dunn wah), he did not learned from a Moy Yat student. In fact He was Yip Man's Nabour. He drove Yip Man to the Teahouse on a nightly basis where various members of the wing chun clan gathered and hang out including Moy Yat, WSL, TST, Tang Sang and others. Sifu had a good relationship with Yip Man, but due to tradition he could only call one person in the same wing chun linage sifu, that person was Moy Yat. although he had many opportunies to interact with Yip Man directly, Yip Man gave my sifu the nick name "The Rock" due to his reputation as a fighter. In fact other senior students of Moy Yat's switched over to learn directly from Yip Man such as Sam Lau, but sifu remained loyal to Moy Yat due to his respect for him as a great teacher whom had profound understanding of Yip Man's art. If you ask any of Yip Man's senior students, they would tell you Yip did not like to repeat things, if you got great, if you didn't he would move on. Yip Man liked Moy Yat due to the fact that Moy Yat was a very intelligent guy who could pick up right away what Yip Man was trying to impart to him right. Moy Yat would often say " wing chun is not for stupid people", he was not trying to insult anyone, but was trying to point out how simple the system is, which is very profound.
Further to the best of my knowledge Moy Yat did not do regular chi sao with Ip Man. Even his knowledge of the kwan it seems was based on Ip Man using chop sticks at a dim sum joint.I think that Navin's comment on Ip Man and his wing chun is based on very incomplete information.
Perhaps Moy Yat didn't do chi sao in public with Yip Man, but he had plenty of opportunities behind closed doors as a deciple of Yip Man's. Moy Yat was Yip Ching's direct training partner so I am sure he would have have plenty of opportunities when Yip Man was correcting his son. Moy Yat's Kwan is the exact same sequence as Yip Ching's, he must have been a genius to pick that up using chop sticks at a dim sum. lol
Six core elements? They are variously stated and restated under different labels a s harmonies or equivalents in neijia arts. Videos list them often.
6 harmonies and 6 core elements are different things:
Six harmonies
Deals with the 3 pairings of joints:
1) The hands harmonize with the feet.
2) The hips harmonize with the shoulders.
3) The elbows harmonize with the knees.
6 Core Elements
1. Physical Body (Joints, Muscle) Biomechanics
2. Mind (Thinking, Intention, Visualizations, Awareness)
3. Breathing (Lower Abdominal Breathing)
4. Qi (Grow, Flow, Bio-Mechanical Bio-Electrical)
5. Jin (Force Flow, Force Path, Action-Reaction Force)
6. Momentum (Movement Handling, Tendency of Movement)
it is silly to hold Ip Man responsible for ones own shortcomings.
Joy, My comment about what Yip Man passed on is not solely based upon Moy Yat's linage, I spent 10 years exploring what Yip Man taught to his various senior students including WSL, TST, Duncan Leung, Allan Lee, William cheung, as well as your wck God Ho Kam Ming and some of his last match of deciples in Toronto etc.,
None of them have force flow or the wealth of knowledge that Hendrik has. Why do you think even Robert Chu and others are now learning from him after their spending decades investment into Yip Man wck. Robert has met and trained with the who's who in yip man wing chun including those i mentioned above.
