Darrencowan
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I can't do high kicks, maybe a front kick to the solar plexus. I have hip problems.
"No Outside Game," or Another Thread About Hybrid Arts
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Darrencowan
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not to mention my muscles are all screwed up. But that is the thing about Sanchin Ryu, it was designed for the common person.
Darrencowan
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yeah, I would like to get at least one high kick in my rep
Bino TWT
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I posted this on another forum the other day, so I'll post it here as well...
Saying that Wing Tsun doesn't have long range (or ground) game is silly. This just shows certain practitioners lack of understanding and application, their Sifu's lack of ability to teach, or their very flawed training methods.
Either you can fight, or you can't. Period.
No concact
Kicking range
Punching range
Trapping/clinch/stand up grappling range
Ground defense
We have an answer for all of that.
I've seen a lot of schools that don't spar and only Chi Sao. They don't mingle with other schools/lineages and they don't cross train with other arts. Therefore they are only functional at that one range that they train. It's not that the system doesn't have it, it's that they don't have it.
Wing Tsun is a concept based art. It's all about how you train. Our lineage has always had ground defense. No competition sport grappling like BJJ, but solutions for dealing with an opponent on the ground and getting back to your feet, anti-grappling, takedown defense, etc. The idea is to not be on the ground, and if it does happen, to spend as little time as possible down there. A lot of this is neglected though in a lot of Kwoons.
I have a video in the WC forum on Fb where I went to the local Gracie Barra BJJ school and handled their instructors with WT on the ground, playing by their rules, so it can be done. Not advisable, but not impossible either.
Saying that Wing Tsun doesn't have long range (or ground) game is silly. This just shows certain practitioners lack of understanding and application, their Sifu's lack of ability to teach, or their very flawed training methods.
Either you can fight, or you can't. Period.
No concact
Kicking range
Punching range
Trapping/clinch/stand up grappling range
Ground defense
We have an answer for all of that.
I've seen a lot of schools that don't spar and only Chi Sao. They don't mingle with other schools/lineages and they don't cross train with other arts. Therefore they are only functional at that one range that they train. It's not that the system doesn't have it, it's that they don't have it.
Wing Tsun is a concept based art. It's all about how you train. Our lineage has always had ground defense. No competition sport grappling like BJJ, but solutions for dealing with an opponent on the ground and getting back to your feet, anti-grappling, takedown defense, etc. The idea is to not be on the ground, and if it does happen, to spend as little time as possible down there. A lot of this is neglected though in a lot of Kwoons.
I have a video in the WC forum on Fb where I went to the local Gracie Barra BJJ school and handled their instructors with WT on the ground, playing by their rules, so it can be done. Not advisable, but not impossible either.
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Is there any way to see that video without joining Facebook?
Bino TWT
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Yeah I'll see what I do. I was asked not to post it publicly, so it's posted in a private WC group. But I'll get it to where you can check it out.
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Sweet, thanks. It isn't often I hear of TMA anti grappling solutions being tested(successfully) against trained grapplers. I want to anylize it.
Bino TWT
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Wing Chun Forum. There's a few of them, it's the big forum, like 70k members.
Bino TWT
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Did you join the forum?
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Yep. and am trying to scroll though about a million posts right now. Can you link it or something?
Bino TWT
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Lol what's your name on Fb? I'll tag you.
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Bino TWT
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Tagged. Read the disclaimers in the description lol
Bino TWT
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Ok, now you're tagged lol. There was another Greg Saunders in the group and I tagged the wrong guy at first.
Lol so u went with that super luxe gi in the end? Lookin good, did not realize it was a pic of you man!
I got teh honey badger!!
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Yeah. finally saw the video. The hand trapping did work but you did get mounted.
I dont know.
