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I would also like to add that grappling can save you if you're dealing with someone who is unfamiliar with it. Honestly that's a bigger portion of the population than those unfamiliar with striking. Far more people know how to punch and kick than to grapple or throw. Simply the nature of the beast.
The best example I've seen of this was a pretty highly trained security guard going against some untrained thug in a street brawl;
The unskilled striker was still able trade blows significantly well with more skilled striker. Why? Because the principles of striking are simply more familiar to the general population than grappling is.
Hanzou, the guy got his *** absolutely handed to him. Had it carried on he could and probably would have been seriously injured - going by the strikes landed ratio between the two.
Any untrained fighter with a rough idea of what to do in a confrontation can sometimes get away with being less trained - THAT'S really the nature of the beast. I've been put on the ground when free sparring a few times myself, but I've survived without tapping out occassionally. Okay, not always and I don't look particularly competent on the ground with an experienced grappler but neither did that guy fighting with the police officer.
Oh, I never said that the guy didn't get his *** handed to him. However, the more skilled striker didn't put him away either. I was also struck by how many blows the cop simply missed. We don't know what would have happened if the fight had continued. It could have very well continued for several more minutes if people hadn't came in there and separated them.
My point is that striking is simply more familiar to more people than grappling is, and when trading blows with someone of equal or greater size and strength, that familiarity decreases your advantages. In that case, grappling can save you.
Actually........the principles of grappling are probably more familiar to the 'general population' than 'striking'. Kids roll around with each other all the time, wrestling has been a staple of television for decades, first the 'normal' sort then the WWE type, I believe in North America wrestling is an extremely popular sport. Here we have many regional variations of wrestling, Judo is extremely popular. Rugby more so, very often you will read that a thief/criminal has been taken down with a rugby tackle which will involve more than just a take down. Most men and increasingly women here have played rugby at some time or another.
Striking is something that a lot of people aren't confident with, they watch boxers, kick boxers and martial arts films but confidence in their own striking isn't as much as you would think, and that comes from experience of many years teaching beginners.
Hanzou - I forget it it's been already covered, but what's your personal experience sparring with women?
I don't have much unfortunately. In my experience women don't feel comfortable with the physical contact level of grappling. This even extends to female family members who were curious about Jiujitsu, yet weren't really comfortable when I showed them standard positions.
I don't have much unfortunately. In my experience women don't feel comfortable with the physical contact level of grappling. This even extends to female family members who were curious about Jiujitsu, yet weren't really comfortable when I showed them standard positions.
No, I'm curious about your 10+ years in Shotokan karate.
Oh, I mistook sparring for grappling. My mistake.
My experience is quite similar to Hussaf's on the first page. I was capable of simply overpowering higher ranked female partners throughout my years in karate.
Damn there is another +rep I can't give lolI'm curious as to why you haven't said this until asked.
And now I'm curious as to the purpose of this thread. According to you, women suck at striking and at grappling. Other than bashing on women in MA, what is it you're trying to prove?
I disagree. Example:
In this case we have some "backyard wrestlers" going against a Bjj blackbelt. The difference in skill, and the dominating ability of the black belt is readily apparent. So while people may enjoy to roll around with their buddies, that doesn't get you very far against a skilled grappler.
I'm curious as to why you haven't said this until asked.
And now I'm curious as to the purpose of this thread. According to you, women suck at striking and at grappling. Other than bashing on women in MA, what is it you're trying to prove?
Sometimes I picture some posters foaming at the mouth while they type their responses. Always gets a little chuckle out of me.
Damn there is another +rep I can't give lol