Why the hate between TMA and MMA?

[drop bear]

Apart from friends and colleagues killed in action over the years, two who remain in my mind were martial arts students of mine, both killed in Afghanistan, one shot, one blown up. One was 20 the other 22 and newly married. They deserved to grow old, to watch their grandchildren and to die of old age not the way they did.
Growing old is a privilege not everyone has, everyone has someone in their family who has been taken too soon, to whinge about dying in old age is to misunderstand how lucky you are to grow old.

So complaining about getting old is a slap in the face to every person who ever died young?

you had better start jumping on a lot of posters then.

 

[Steve]

So complaining about getting old is a slap in the face to every person who ever died young?

you had better start jumping on a lot of posters then.

I want to be clear that I completely understand what @Tez3 is saying and agree with her that far too many are taken young. But people complain (good naturedly) about getting older all the time. CB Jones was just lamenting that he was turning 40. I don't think he received quite the same response.

 

[JP3]

@Tez3 , sometimes, you say some really mean things for no reason I can fathom.

Steve... did you miss FR's comment to Ironbear about shirt size? That'd go in the same category, imo. I mean, XXXLL? Really?

 

[Steve]

I don't know. If that were said to me in would have taken it as good natured ribbing. Not the same. Just my read.

 

[Ironbear24]

I don't know. If that were said to me in would have taken it as good natured ribbing. Not the same. Just my read.

It's an obvious weight joke, something he did before as well. I get if you want jump on tez for something, but ignoring the blatant obvious is just pointless. How can that possibly be in good jest?

 

[JP3]

I don't know. If that were said to me in would have taken it as good natured ribbing. Not the same. Just my read.

I would have, too, but that's us... but it was just inconsistent. But, as you said, that's probably only my read but Ironbear's post sort of leans my way.


I'd say it's because she's a she and she's are meaner than he's and run with that. Run, particularly, away from Tez when she reads my blatantly sexist comment even though girls are winning.

 

[CB Jones]

CB Jones was just lamenting that he was turning 40.

Oh no you misunderstood. Not lamenting.....getting older doesn't bother me at all.

Anyways, I'm pretty sure that I'm immortal.....at least that is what I'm going with until proven wrong.

 

[FriedRice]

Then you are a fool, I know of too many young people whose lives were cut short and deserved to die of old age not cut down in their prime.

Damn bro, relax, I didn't mean to hit a sore spot.

 

[FriedRice]

Are you saying you are that big? I guess you can look it up on their website and see if they have something in your size.

I see what you did there, trying hard at comedy right? lolz.

 

[Steve]

It's an obvious weight joke, something he did before as well. I get if you want jump on tez for something, but ignoring the blatant obvious is just pointless. How can that possibly be in good jest?

I didn't know you were struggling with your weight. If so, you're right. I don't think it's the same, but certainly, if it was intended as an insult, then it's not okay.

 

[FriedRice]

So complaining about getting old is a slap in the face to every person who ever died young?

you had better start jumping on a lot of posters then.

He tries hard, especially when that came out of nowhere. Don't even dare talk about "women's rape defense" with that guy neither.

 

[FriedRice]

Steve... did you miss FR's comment to Ironbear about shirt size? That'd go in the same category, imo. I mean, XXXLL? Really?

Oh so he can say something towards me, hypocrite? What's the big deal anyway? WWIII spark or something?

 

[Steve]

Oh no you misunderstood. Not lamenting.....getting older doesn't bother me at all.

Anyways, I'm pretty sure that I'm immortal.....at least that is what I'm going with until proven wrong.

well, good luck with that. My point is, when you go out of your way looking for offense, it's easy to twist things around.

I'm kind of surprised you guys think what she said wasn't mean. Maybe I really can't tell the difference between mean and funny.

 

[JP3]

Damn bro, relax, I didn't mean to hit a sore spot.

You might know this or you might not... I had to find out this way too...

Tez3 is not a "Bro." And not because She" is English, either.

 

[FriedRice]

It's an obvious weight joke, something he did before as well. I get if you want jump on tez for something, but ignoring the blatant obvious is just pointless. How can that possibly be in good jest?

Goodness, you said something towards me. I thought we were just having fun.

 

[Steve]

Do you think now is an okay time for everyone to let it go?

How about now?

 

[Steve]

Now?

What about now?

 

[CB Jones]

Now?

What about now?

Wait....





Wait.....




Wait.......




Ok.........





NOW!

 

[Tez3]

Damn bro, relax, I didn't mean to hit a sore spot.

I'm not nor ever will be your bro. Sore spot yes in some ways in other ways it's you. Your posts seem designed to get to annoy people, you've upset many on the thread about the US combatives by disrespecting the American Marines and service people ( not my words by the words but of quite a few of the posters, it's also my opinion though), that's never going to go down well. Your posts have a sneering quality about them.
Last week was Yom Ha'Shoah , my mother was the only survivor of a big Dutch family who were in the camps. Then it was memorial of one of my students, then it was Yom Hazikaron, yesterday. We are blessed if we get old, to die young is to die unfulfilled and unfulfilling.

As for the rape comments, I have had to deal with the aftermath of a few rapes, the investigation, the court cases and the lasting damage it does to people ( one was a male victim) some people are destroyed by it and one victim killed herself so yes I get pretty fierce. I don't want anyone else to get hurt, which you may think unrealistic being a 'smart' guy but it's an ideal and without ideals we are nothing. We are the sum of our experiences and people's ignorant throwaway lines that they think are smart, well, they just aren't.


On the subject of styles, all styles work, all are useful and effective however the human factor means that mistakes, ego, misunderstandings and often sheer stupidity get in the way so styles get watered down, bragged about and generally buggered about, instead of blaming styles look to the instructors and coaches. BJJ and MMA can be as badly taught as any other style, I 've seen it. There is no one panacea that gives protection, no magic style so get over it, get old disgracefully and..... Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Though wise men at their end know dark is right, Because their words had forked no lightning they Do not go gentle into that good night. ( Dylan Thomas)

 

[Hanzou]

I'm forced to disagree with Tez here. Styles like Bjj, Muay Thai, and MMA in general have a lower chance of being taught poorly because there is a standard to adhere to and practitioners of those styles tend to travel around to other gyms to practice with other people.

Can these styles be taught poorly? Sure. However, its going to occur at a much lower rate than a random Karate or Kung Fu school, because they're more than likely training in a vacuum.

 

[Hanzou]

double post.