Not necessarily. Sport is focused on winning. Sparring can be sport, but it needn't be. If it's focus is on learning, not necessarily winning.So sparring is a sport after all.
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Not necessarily. Sport is focused on winning. Sparring can be sport, but it needn't be. If it's focus is on learning, not necessarily winning.So sparring is a sport after all.
Call it however you choose. I don’t compete, I practice. No trophies or certificates or belts or kudos. I don’t have anything against that, my students are welcome to compete or not.So sparring is a sport after all.
That is exactly on point. I don’t care about a sparring win, I only care to practice and learn. It’s not sport to me, but again, nothing wrong with sport or sparring or competition.Not necessarily. Sport is focused on winning. Sparring can be sport, but it needn't be. If its focus is on learning, not necessarily winning.
In sparring, if you intentionally to let your opponent's kick/punch to land on your body, that's called "partner drill".Not necessarily. Sport is focused on winning. Sparring can be sport, but it needn't be. If it's focus is on learning, not necessarily winning.
No. If I am competing I will try to win using the most expedient means I have available. If I am sparring, I will try to learn something new or work on something specific but in both cases I will resist my partners attempts. In no case do I let someone land punches and kicks on me. Partner drill means we are helping each other to learn a technique correctly so we don’t learn a sloppy version and we don’t injure one another. I feel like you know exactly what I mean here so I won’t belabor the point. Again, nomenclature is not important since I just defined it for you, but you may call a snake a noodle for all I care.In sparring, if you intentionally to let your opponent's kick/punch to land on your body, that's called "partner drill".
In sparring, you try to land your kick/punch on your opponent's body. You also try not to let your opponent's kick/punch to land on you. You have a goal, and you want to achieve your goal. When you try to achieve your goal, and your opponent also tries to achieve his goal, does that fit the definition of "competition"?
How about this psychological reflection?When you try to achieve your goal, and your opponent also tries to achieve his goal, does that fit the definition of "competition"?
If my opponent's goal is to kill me and my goal is to stay alive, I'd say this is a bit beyond competition.When you try to achieve your goal, and your opponent also tries to achieve his goal, does that fit the definition of "competition"?
I think there is a difference between sparring and wrestling.In dojo sparring, if the main goal is to learn or gain skill, it is practicing. If the sparring is a test of this skill/learning and there is a defined winner, it is competition.
But in the perspective of learning who learned and developed the most? The person winning every round or the one loosing?If you and I wrestle 5 rounds daily and the score is always you win all 5 rounds. After a year, what kind of conclusions will we draw.
If you have used hip throw to throw me 1000 times, and I have never used hip throw to throw you even once, of course you have learned and developed better hip throw skill than I have.But in the perspective of learning who learned and developed the most? The person winning every round or the one loosing?
I may just talk about Chinese wrestling here.In the wrestling I’m used to, the real work doesn’t come until you’re ON the ground.
Just wondering, when people say they are not interest in sport, how do they spar?
I'm talking about Chinese wrestling here.
For inside school testing, the circle is not important. For regular tournament, stay in the defined space is required.In your rule set, is there a requirement to remain within the circle, or is the circle not part of the match?
Yes.If you have used hip throw to throw me 1000 times, and I have never used hip throw to throw you even once, of course you have learned and developed better hip throw skill than I have.
It is valuable feedback that tells me: I need to go home, and figure out a new strategy for defending your hip throw, and figure out an attack that may work on you, wether it means improving my throws, or realizing that throw isn't an answer, it is perhaps an low kick. That is why we spar. It is how I do it. Almost after every sparring session, I go home thinking about what I need to improve the next time. Improving sometimes involves simply practicing a technique, other times the insight is that I use the wrong techqniue at the wrong time. Coming into the sparring session I also have something in mind that I want to "try out" today. A sparring session where I only learn that person A is better than person B is not so useful.Through that 1000 rounds, my learning and developing is "My hip throw won't work on you, and I have 0 defense against your hip throw". What's the value of that kind of experience for me?
If my opponent's goal is to kill me and my goal is to stay alive, I'd say this is a bit beyond competition.
I'd define "competition" as trying to win as determined by an accepted rule set.
Sport is much like competition, except people watch it. Sometimes the rule set takes into consideration the attraction of spectators.
I agree with Dirty Dog on his main point. To sum up this topic: In dojo sparring, if the main goal is to learn or gain skill, it is practicing. If the sparring is a test of this skill/learning and there is a defined winner, it is competition. If people are encouraged to watch, it becomes sport.
May be because my "ability" is weak, and I need to develop more "ability".It is valuable feedback that tells me: I need to go home, and figure out a new strategy for defending your hip throw,
https://yokkao.com/pages/yi-longMonk Yilong VS Kido Yasuhiro, hit by a backhand punch, Yilong was knocked out again by a high kick.
Liu Xingjun, or better known as Yi Long or One Dragon is a Kung Fu fighter out of the Shandong Province in China. He is often touted as a Shaolin Monk. Shaolin Kung Fu is the largest school or style of Kung Fu in China with many styles in southern and northern China using the name of Shaolin.
He began training at 14 years old. His father imparted stories of Chinese martial arts and he decided he wanted to become a fighter. He is a large proponent of traditional Martial Arts. He has a record of 43 fights with 36 wins, 7 losses and 1 draw.