Why?I would not, however, recommend that this be done by a white belt or by a novice with no prior martial arts training.
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Why?I would not, however, recommend that this be done by a white belt or by a novice with no prior martial arts training.
I disagree. Trying to learn two or more styles from scratch is a Big ask. A person who is well experienced in one style, continues to train in it, and begins to train in another will have a much easier time of it.I will add that I should have made it clear that, in responding to the original poster's query, I am sharing my opinions and experiences as someone with a background; I would not, however, recommend that this be done by a white belt or by a novice with no prior martial arts training.
I respect that opinionI disagree. Trying to learn two or more styles from scratch is a Big ask. A person who is well experienced in one style, continues to train in it, and begins to train in another will have a much easier time of it.
Hello Gyakuto,What would be the problem with doing so? To me, it’s simply polite to do so.
By count you should be doing everything from embroidery to monster truck…whatever it is they do.
Best of luck to you
Thanks for pointing toward that documentary, although I can’t watch YouTube from my location I will try find it on other channels.Hello Gyakuto,
To avoid needless drama, I personally don't give it much thought, although there truly isn't a problem. As I previously stated, I'm from the US, where everything is a business. To me, this is no different than attending separate college courses or purchasing burgers from two distinct establishments. Most of my current instructors are "Americanized"; they either see you in class to provide instruction or they don't. They have enough experience in the field to realize that managing a dojo entails a rotating door of pupils who come and leave. I am aware of Japanese etiquette, but I'm not sure how I would feel if I were receiving instruction there. Once I am more immersed in the culture by actually training there, then my opinions may alter. A very interesting documentary video can be found on YouTube about a man who left his life in the UK to train with a high level Shorin Ryu instructor in Okinawa. He lived and trained there, paying the teacher with yard work and other odd jobs—the traditional method of giving back to a teacher for allowing you to live and train at the dojo, among other things. That's something I completely understand and appreciate, but in all honesty, none of those opportunities happen here in the US; Okinawa and Japan are just different, here you have the money to pay or you dont. In any case, I don't know whether I'll ever get the chance to experience what that man from the UK did, but I'll make the most of my time here in the US before I can't.
Here is the YT link to that documentary if anyone is interersted
best regards
Aren’t American business people polite to each other?Hello Gyakuto,
To avoid needless drama, I personally don't give it much thought, although there truly isn't a problem. As I previously stated, I'm from the US, where everything is a business.
Those are virtually faceless interactions. A martial arts teacher is far more ‘hands on’, invested in your training (I hope).To me, this is no different than attending separate college courses or purchasing burgers from two distinct establishments.
Are right. That’s a real shame. Forget ‘em then!Most of my current instructors are "Americanized"; they either see you in class to provide instruction or they don't.
Attrition rates are high in the MA, but I still find that attitude from the instructors a little sad…more like a gym owner’s attitude.They have enough experience in the field to realize that managing a dojo entails a rotating door of pupils who come and leave.
If you found a teacher who was more of a mentor…like Mr Miyagi, I’m sure you’d think differently.I am aware of Japanese etiquette, but I'm not sure how I would feel if I were receiving instruction there. Once I am more immersed in the culture by actually training there, then my opinions may alter.
I saw that a few years ago on NHK. It’s a good account.A very interesting documentary video can be found on YouTube about a man who left his life in the UK to train with a high level Shorin Ryu instructor in Okinawa. He lived and trained there, paying the teacher with yard work and other odd jobs—the traditional method of giving back to a teacher for allowing you to live and train at the dojo, among other things.
Someone please jump in and say this isn’t always the caseThat's something I completely understand and appreciate, but in all honesty, none of those opportunities happen here in the US; Okinawa and Japan are just different, here you have the money to pay or you dont.
paying the teacher with yard work and other odd jobs—the traditional method of giving back to a teacher for allowing you to live and train at the dojo, among other things. That's something I completely understand and appreciate, but in all honesty, none of those opportunities happen here in the US; Okinawa and Japan are just different, here you have the money to pay or you dont.
I've spent 25 years as an active student in isshinryu karate learning in the USA from two sensei. Total money spent - $170 for my first year. This does not include a year of free fencing instruction (foil) by a former Olympic coach (and some time with Ed Parker with no money paid - business arrangement). To be sure, such things are rare and I've been extremely fortunate.Someone please jump in and say this isn’t always the case
This isn’t always the case.Someone please jump in and say this isn’t always the case
It isn't always the case.My faith in dedicated, altruistic TMA teachers is slightly restored!