The Resurgence of Traditional Martial Arts in Modern Mixed Martial Arts

[JowGaWolf]

So this is the example i would use.
Here is a quite simply ridiculous martial arts move. That I don't understand and I can't do and I am not a pro MMA fighter.

Find a guy who likes to do this type of stuff. When you grab his leg, when that leg gets really heavy then let it slip from your hands. He'll fall to the ground like a sack of bricks. His attempt will fail, and you'll get some giggles when you see how hard he hits the ground lol. That technique requires you to hold his leg. When you let go, he won't have anything to support his escape flip. he will fall into emptiness.

Sometimes it's better to let go. I've seen this happen to someone in class. The person didn't mean to let go. He just had a weak grip that couldn't support that weight so as soon as the leg got heavy, the person trying to escape lost the support that he needed. He hit the ground and busted up his knees a little, (we train on concrete).

 

[Steve]

You can discuss as you please. You may disagree as often as you like, but don’t pretend to be an expert and know all about what everyone else is or is not doing. Silly is as silly does. You certainly display an expertise is prevarication if nothing else

I don’t believe I pretended to be an expert on anything. Can you show me where I did that please? And suggesting I’m a liar (prevarication) is against the rules. Show me where I’ve lied, while you’re at it.

 

[JowGaWolf]

To find different ways to train is always interest me. Unfortunately, until today, I still have not found any different training methods that can help me to develop strong head lock.

This trains two things at the same time. But you can train head lock strength on a grappling dummy. You just won't get that second part which trains the legs.

 

[JowGaWolf]

Show me where I’ve lied, while you’re at it

lol thinking how painful it would be for me to go back and search for an example of this and then have an argument about it. I will however see what CoPilot thinks of this thread lol.

 

[marvin8]

That's my approach too. When I look at

- Chinese wrestling (Shuai Chiao, or Shuai Jiao) and Taiji, both uses borrow, stick, follow, yield, sink, ...
- Long fist and boxing, both uses jab, cross, hook, uppercut, overhand, ...

MMA, boxing, etc., also uses the concepts borrow, stick, follow, yield, sink...

To find different ways to train is always interest me. Unfortunately, until today, I still have not found any different training methods that can help me to develop strong head lock.

What does this mean? Does this mean that there is something exist in TMA that still don't exist in MMA yet? A strong head lock can help you to choke out your opponent both stand up. or on the ground. Even MMA guys will love to develop such ability.

No. Chimaev uses a strong head lock choke breaking Whittaker’s jaw.

 

[JowGaWolf]

lol thinking how painful it would be for me to go back and search for an example of this and then have an argument about it. I will however see what CoPilot thinks of this thread lol.

So I asked CoPilot about you Steve. Ai is still stupid, it makes a bunch of assumptions. It's like a human that makes assumptions but 10x as worse. I hope they fix it.

So I asked about Steve's actual stance in regard to this thread. Once I asked the question it finally gave an answer that sounds like Steve.

Copliot's thoughts on Steve in this Thread. (question. What is Steve's actual stance in this thread?"
"From the content discussed, Steve doesn't explicitly express his views on the integration or benefits of traditional martial arts within modern MMA in the posts we've referenced. His contributions in this thread seem focused on addressing personal disputes rather than delving into the main topic of discussion.

Without specific posts where Steve articulates his perspective on traditional martial arts and their role in MMA, it's challenging to determine his actual stance."

Steve. this is you all the way. I had to ask the same question of myself.

"What is JowGaWolf's actual stance in this thread?"
"JowGaWolf's stance is that traditional martial arts have a vital role to play in modern MMA. He champions the idea that the techniques, philosophies, and cultural aspects of traditional styles like Jow Ga Kung Fu can significantly enrich a fighter's abilities and approach to the sport. By promoting a hybrid model that respects tradition while embracing modern advancements, he believes fighters can attain higher levels of proficiency and success in MMA."

What say you Steve? Hit or Miss?

 

[drop bear]

Find a guy who likes to do this type of stuff. When you grab his leg, when that leg gets really heavy then let it slip from your hands. He'll fall to the ground like a sack of bricks. His attempt will fail, and you'll get some giggles when you see how hard he hits the ground lol. That technique requires you to hold his leg. When you let go, he won't have anything to support his escape flip. he will fall into emptiness.

Sometimes it's better to let go. I've seen this happen to someone in class. The person didn't mean to let go. He just had a weak grip that couldn't support that weight so as soon as the leg got heavy, the person trying to escape lost the support that he needed. He hit the ground and busted up his knees a little, (we train on concrete).

It is to explain a concept. We can think about martial arts with evidence. Or we can think about martial arts with stories.

And I don't believe they are equal but opposing viewpoints.

I believe evidence is just better.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

This trains two things at the same time. But you can train head lock strength on a grappling dummy. You just won't get that second part which trains the legs.

The pole hanging training uses your arm muscle to carry your own body weight. If you stand on the ground and squeeze your grappling dummy, you are not dealing with your body weight. You may think you have squeezed your grappling dummy hard enough. But you can't measure that.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

traditional martial arts have a vital role to play in modern MMA.

TMA has a lot to offer to MMA. Just give another 10 more years. I'm sure some MMA guys will use the TMA "rhino guard" to obtain TMA "head lock" in order to change a striking game into a grappling game.



I also believe that the TMA "tie - spring one leg and get the other leg" will be used in MMA ring soon or later.