The Resurgence of Traditional Martial Arts in Modern Mixed Martial Arts

[drop bear]

This teacher does not seem to have any idea of "irimi" entering or "tenkan" getting off line.

Could be wrong, an Aikidoist, might have a better more in depth explanation, or correct my understanding.

The timing is different.

So he had nothing to enter or get off line of.

You can't use Aikido principles if you can't fight.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

TMA has Sanda that combine kick/punch/throw. If you just add ground game into Sanda, you will get MMA.

So, TMA and MMA are not that far apart at all.

 

[JowGaWolf]

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In TMA, training typically emphasizes preserving historical techniques and stylistic traditions, though some schools incorporate modern adaptations.

historically this wasn't always true. The fact that we have so many branch of TMA speaks of not preserving stylistic traditions. The variations of Wing Chun is a good example. I don't think it's possible to preserve historical techniques and stylistic traditions if people are actually using the techniques in the context of System A vs System B. If schools were concerned about their techniques being stolen, then that would also be an example that there was a lot of cross pollination.

I train System A vs System B and my biggest concern isn't keeping the stylistic traditions. My biggest concern is the natural "cross pollination" that I know will occur. There is no way I can spar against BJJ and not have BJJ bleed into my Jow Ga. As much as I try to keep it just Jow Ga, I know it will happen. We learn from friends and it's only natural that it will happen. The most that I'll be able to do is understand where BJJ begins and where Jow Ga Ends. This will be more difficult with the striking systems.

 

[JowGaWolf]

The timing is different.

So he had nothing to enter or get off line of.

You can't use Aikido principles if you can't fight.

I personally wouldn't use any of his Old Videos of Rokas trying to use Aikido. That video is his low point where he turned against Aikido and traditional martial arts in general. From what I understand he's out of that mindset after having some fighting experience and he now has a more positive mindset about Aikido, and it looks like he has a better understanding of Aikido now.

To me it looks like he had some MMA and BJJ training partners that would spar with him in a way that he could practice applying his Aikido techniques and it looks like that's where most of his skill growth came from. Having that training partner who isn't all about winning makes a big difference when it comes to improving one's martial arts skills. From what I can tell from most Aikido, emphasis is about going with the flow and as a result no one resists. Which doesn't help when they have to find the flow of a resisting opponent.