I didn't follow your words entirely on that, DB, but I think I got what you meant. If not, correct me.
I think this goes to the idea of defining the term. For some exercises, "winning" is figuring out how to activate a technique. Sometimes, it's helping your partner figure that out. And sometimes it's stopping that bastard from doing what he wants before he does the same to you. Then having a beer. Beer is always winning.
While I tend to agree on this, DB, for some folks the outcome isn't the point. There are folks (quite a lot of them, I suspect but cannot establish) who really just want to do some cool stuff and have fun with it. For those folks, sparring or not sparring doesn't really change things.
If this is your definition then I have no problem with it. The problem I have is maybe with the word winning. It has connotations that I don't apply to self defense. But yes to achieve your objective is the goal.
Your free to explain why you think that, but I disagree.
Maybe but maybe not... I like martial arts but there is another side me that doesn't give a rats behind about "arts" and the results is ALL that matters.
To some it matters to some it doesn't. No ones right or wrong. Personally I don't care at all about competition. I'm training to stay healthy and have fun. I don't give a damm if I can beat someone or not. I couldn't care if every single person can beat me I'm training because I enjoy it simple as that. My reasons for training are just as valid as yours. That's the point there's no right or wrong answer. Martial arts is a hobby that's it lets be real it's a hobby that's all. The medicine comparison is frankly silly. A doctor doesn't study medicine for a hobby he does it because it's his job. Most martial artists aren't doing it as their job so they can do whatever they want. People need to get over their egos and stop telling everyone how they should spend their time training.
Pretty much how it is for me. I'll spar sure but I don't care if I don't. I'll do whatever we do in class on that day. If I beat someone in class...so what? What do I get for it? Absolutely nothing so who cares
Find me an MMA school where what you are taught is not put to the fire daily and you might have a point. Otherwise this is an apples to oranges comparison.not a bad blog post but not great either. he bring up some good points but his explanations and examples are lacking. ill give him a pass on this because i know myself that when i try to find examples its not always so easy to communicate what im thinking. however his examples do lead the reader into exactly what he is rallying against,,, groupthink.
Illusions of invulnerability – The belief that the group cannot fail –
Most MMA schools are isolated from the “outside world”. When a group of likeminded people train together long enough, without leaving the safe confines of their dojo, it isn’t too long before a sense of superiority falls upon these students (and the coach). We can see this with the example of the MMA fighter who was knocked out cold in a convenience store by a group of young men, by all accounts, he seemed to suffer an illusion of grandeur.
....see what i did there...
Rationalising – the tendency to “explain away” contracting information. This is also known in psychology as confirmation bias. The behaviour of group of people to only recognise those examples that support their view point and rationalize away the data that is contradicting their belief system.
Himself and his students explained away the disastrous defeat by claiming he wasn’t properly nourished before the match.
the problem with this example is that it is not just traditional martial arts. any fighter in any discipline is known to make excuses for thier loss.
Apparently you missed the part where I was trying to express that I agree with having the ability to win a fight, but that's different from using that ability. My car has an engine and it runs just fine yall are trying to paint a picture and make an argument that isn't there. Your basically saying if you don't do MMA then you can't fight. You may skirt the direct quote but that's what your implying.
Your absolutely right...but some of us are not playing by your rules. I'm not training to "fight" , I'm training to "win" with minimal effort while keeping myself out of prison.
You are so far off you are in a different postal code, this has nothing to do with whether MMA is superior to anything, only that your comparison didn't really work.
sorry to keep this up but im in a especially dark mood tonight ...so i apologize.
for the record i am a big proponent of pressure testing. somehow we got our lines crossed on that one because pressure testing wasnt something i was talking about at all.
I think the Crux here is that I don't go to a martial art for making life decisions or keeping my wits about me. Those are completely different things. I go to a martial art to learn and hone fighting skills.
