Uh, no...but if they purchase a martial arts book or DVD with Ninja in the title, it might be different, don't you think?
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He may be back, Don has an effect on most people like that, he'll be back for more...one day.Shinkengata said:He should have stuck around and became a RSS(Roley Success Story) like me.:supcool:
Well there is Santo Tonko no Kata (12 formal escape patterns involving shuko, metsbushui, senban, and goton no jutsu), Shinobi Gaeshi Gata (12 formal patterns that include teaching to use metsubushi, shuriken, and shuko), the kamae and ukemi of Togakure-ryu, as well as Togakure-ryu bikenjutsu and kusarigamajutsu (the kyoketsu shoge techniques). That's part of ninjutsu, it's combat related (mostly escape patterns, but you know) and it's all been taught in the bujinkan at one time or another. Then there are "ninjutsu hints" found all over Hatsumi-sensei's books.Nimravus said:Just curious... I for one haven't been taught very much ninjutsu, which, to the best of my knowledge, has nothing to do with physical combat techniques, but rather is a specialized science designed for use in feudal Japan with the gathering and usage of information/disinformation as its main purpose.
I assume teh answer all around is name recognition. Ninjutsu hasn't, but Taijutsu doesn't.ginshun said:[size=-1]Also, why is this forum called the Ninjutsu forum if nobody (or very few) here are learning/studying ninjutsu? Why not change it to the Taijutsu forum?[/size]
Tgace said:Does the US Army teach "Ninjutsu" too then? Learned the same things there. So would learning them make you a SOF soldier too?
Little tongue-in-cheek there but do you see my point?
For that matter, how does this equate to a modern martial artist saying that he practices Bushido?ninja -- (J) Used casually to describe those who practice ninjutsu, with varying degrees of humor intended. Some people consider a ninja to be literally anyone who studies the art. Others feel it describes someone who uses the art for espionage activities in any time period, and still others feel it is a strictly historical term that no longer applies to anyone alive.
ninjutsu -- (J) Depending on usage, either the collection of martial techniques from the schools taught under Soke Masaaki Hatsumi, or an entire philosophy or lifestyle of survival and efficient, effective action. In the first definition, it is closer to 'taijutsu', and in the second, closer to 'ninpo'. Some even argue that 'ninjutsu' no longer exists, in terms of the espionage agents of ancient Japan, but the term is still commonly used to describe the martial techniques, no matter how traditional or modified in the modern day.
ninpo -- (J) A very loose definition meaning the collection of martial techniques known as ninjutsu together with the lifestyle common to martial artists, warrior philosophies, and the various spiritual techniques that might be associated. Each person will have a different interpretation of what exactly falls into this category, but it is used commonly to refer to "all things associated with a ninjutsu view of life", in contrast to only techniques for combat.
Well, at least the jutsu portionTgace said:Does the US Army teach "Ninjutsu" too then?
First off, if Hatsumi has not been specific about what ninjutsu is then how come you seem to have such a specific idea of its definition?Nimravus said:First off, Hatsumi sensei is Japanese. He cannot be expected to be as frank about things as a westerner would.
That "The Grandmaster's Book..." and "Essence of Ninjutsu" are not training manuals is apparent for anyone who opens them and reads a single chapter - the first consists of interviews, the second mostly of tales and anecdotes of different kinds.
I'm all for this forum having its name changed - I suggest we call it "Budo Taijutsu - Ninpo Taijutsu".