Deaf
Green Belt
Gary Arthur said:I agree that the way An Shu Hayes teaches may not be for everyone, and neither is Genbukan, Bujinkan or any other organisation. We are all different and that what makes us interesting, but it seems to me that many of these post are put up here with the people making those posts having never trained with Stephen K Hayes, In TO-SHIN DO or seen the DVDs. Most of what seems to be on this site is rumour.
Check it out yourselves, you may be surprised.
Well Gary, You are correct that what Hayes teaches may not be for everyone and that we are all different. However I do speak from experience. I trained with Hayes for close to 2 years and have many other friends who have trained with Hayes longer than I.
I don't dispute that Hayes is an excellent business man and knows how to run a dojo and bring in the $$. Neither do I dispute that his ToShinDo cirriculum is decent. What I do disagree with is people getting confused and claiming that because they are ToShinDo then they are Bujinkan as well. This is false and it really ticks me off because Hayes makes NO attempt to clear this up but lets it continue because at the end of the day...it all means that there is more $$ going into his pocket.
So all in all. I give Hayes points for being a successful business man but I wouldn't recommend anyone learning from him today because I truly believe he has lost the "magic"! He had it in the past but somewhere down the line...it slowly faded away.
~Deaf~