Some thoughts about discussing the martial arts

[elder999]

They very well may be ignorant, but calling them that will just cause them to dig in their heels and double down on their position. It's not an effective tactic for convincing someone that they are wrong.

I can't say that I've ever done that-"called" someone "ignorant."

I'm sure I've said that their post seemed ignorant to me, and that's a difference that seems to have escaped people most of the time.

In the end, what frustrates me most is trying to make a point with facts and evidence, and having them dismissed.

That, and being called names...... (see that? I miss the "flaming mad" smiley, too-this fella looks like he's just constipated....)

 

[Cirdan]

I'll do my best. As the topic is how to be more constructive in our discussions, do you have any specific, helpful suggestions? Perhaps others can benefit from my poor example.


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Well since you ask my one advice is to be honest.

 

[Steve]

Well since you ask my one advice is to be honest.

Could you be more specific? I'm genuinely interested. Do you think we have a general issue with honesty around here or just me?


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[Steve]

I can't say that I've ever done that-"called" someone "ignorant."

I'm sure I've said that their post seemed ignorant to me, and that's a difference that seems to have escaped people most of the time.

In the end, what frustrates me most is trying to make a point with facts and evidence, and having them dismissed.

That, and being called names......

Distinguishing between facts and opinions is a tough one around here sometimes. It's particularly tricky when a poster mixes the two together.


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[Cirdan]

Could you be more specific? I'm genuinely interested. Do you think we have a general issue with honesty around here or just me?


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Yes I can be more specific. Shut up and be honest.

 

[Steve]

if you think I'm being dishonest would you consider sending me a pm with some more information? I'd appreciate it.


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[Cirdan]

Nope, actually Steve I am going to take a number from someone much wiser than me on this forum and put you on ignore for now. Maybe I`ll check on you in a few months and see how you are doing with that self improvement you want to work so hard on.

 

[Hanzou]

Except this topic isnt about you.

On the contrary, the remarks by several posters in this thread were in regards to what I supposedly stated in the previous thread.

If we wish to have a better discussion around these parts, it can start with a little bit of honesty. Wouldn't you agree?

 

[elder999]

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[Steve]

Lol. Elder, you're warming up to the new emoticons.


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[Cirdan]

If we wish to have a better discussion around these parts, it can start with a little bit of honesty. Wouldn't you agree?

You confessed to being the textbook definition of a troll in post #15, pretty honest I`ll give you that.

 

[Hanzou]

You confessed to being the textbook definition of a troll in post #15, pretty honest I`ll give you that.

Me laughing at people getting angry over things said on a message board makes me a troll?

Interesting.

 

[ballen0351]

On the contrary, the remarks by several posters in this thread were in regards to what I supposedly stated in the previous thread.

If we wish to have a better discussion around these parts, it can start with a little bit of honesty. Wouldn't you agree?

LOL ok Im not really interested in having better discussions with you so Ill see if this new forum has an ignore feature

 

[Cirdan]

Me laughing at people getting angry over things said on a message board makes me a troll?

Interesting.

We are what we choose to be. Happy with yours?

 

[Hanzou]

LOL ok Im not really interested in having better discussions with you so Ill see if this new forum has an ignore feature

Good idea! Hopefully this means you'll stay out of my threads as well.

 

[elder999]

Lol. Elder, you're warming up to the new emoticons.


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Nah. Just trying to express myself within the limited confines of the tools provided, as well as keeping on topic.....

 

[K-man]

Then you can (and I think should) try to educate. But that isn't always possible. If the person doesn't want to be educated - if they cling to whatever misconceptions, false assumptions, incorrect facts, or whatever - then calling them names or engaging the practice of flogging a dead horse isn't really productive. We're all guilty of doing so, sometimes, but it's rarely (if ever) helpful.

Yes, but sometimes it eases the frustration and makes you feel so much better.
I mean instead of .

 

[Cirdan]

I am not above laughing when people make complete fools of themselves, a favor I hope will be returned when appropriate.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Yes, but sometimes it eases the frustration and makes you feel so much better.
I mean instead of .

I agree, absolutely. But it must be admitted that when you reach that point, you're no longer trying to educate or inform. You're just poking them for the comic relief.

 

[Tez3]

I agree, absolutely. But it must be admitted that when you reach that point, you're no longer trying to educate or inform. You're just poking them for the comic relief.[/QUOTE]

Well if it's for comic relief, please stump up some money
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