Six Harmonies in Wing Chun

[Xue Sheng]

I probably should have known this was in Wing Chun, since I have been in CMA for over 390 years, abnd I have dealt with this before in Xingyi, Bagua, Taiji...but I simply did not know it was part of Wing Chun too..

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[Kung Fu Wang]

WC is not the proper system to train 6H. A beginner needs to learn how to coordinate foot with hand. But the 1st WC form lets the beginner to stand still and only move arms without moving the feet.

The difficult training level can be:

foot coordinate with hand < knee coordinate with elbow < hip coordinate with shoulder

WC doesn't give beginners an easy training form even for "foot coordinate with hand".

 

[APL76]

WC is not the proper system to train 6H. A beginner needs to learn how to coordinate foot with hand. But the 1st WC form lets the beginner to stand still and only move arms without moving the feet.

The difficult training level can be:

foot coordinate with hand < knee coordinate with elbow < hip coordinate with shoulder

WC doesn't give beginners an easy training form even for "foot coordinate with hand".

I think you are only partly correct, and even then, that's not considering the sweeping generalisation about what Wing Chun does.

Generalisation first: Wing Chun is so fractured into various groups that saying wat Wing Chun does about foot hand coordination is impossible. Some would train at it from the get-go, some might not, some somewhere in between.

Then about standing in one spot: Yes, we do the first form stationarily. This is to develop a strong stance and correct alignment of the body in relation to the centreline. Indeed, when I learned Sum Nung Wing Chun the only training, I did for about 4 months was stance work, nothing else. However, you do learn to coordinate the whole body, including the arms when you open and close your stance.

The idea of this training is that, without a strong stance you won't have as highly developed basis on which to build hand-foot coordination.

Followong the stance training comes learning to punch then the Turning Stance. When you learn Turning Stance, one of the primary points of the training is to develop coordination between hips, stance and hands. When I leaned that, and everything following it in Sum Nung Wing Chun, it was foot-hand coordination for about the next 7 years.

So, as is standard, Wing Chun already incorporates what you are talking about, at least how I learned it.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

If you want to train

- kicking, your form needs to have a lot of kicks.
- 6H, your form needs to have a lot of footwork.

To train 6H, you need to have a form that's designed for that training purpose. The form needs to be moving around. This way, it's easier for a beginner to check whether or not his

- hand and foot start to move at the same time, and also
- hand and foot stop at the same time.

 

[Xue Sheng]

If you want to train

- kicking, your form needs to have a lot of kicks.
- 6H, your form needs to have a lot of footwork.

To train 6H, you need to have a form that's designed for that training purpose. The form needs to be moving around. This way, it's easier for a beginner to check whether or not his

- hand and foot start to move at the same time, and also
- hand and foot stop at the same time.

you do realize we are in a Wing Chun section talking about Wing Chun right?

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

you do realize we are in a Wing Chun section talking about Wing Chun right?

I don't know how anybody can use the 1st WC form to train 6H. I show an example why the 1st WC form is not proper for that purpose.

Actually, the 1st WC form has violated the 6H principle big time - freeze the body and only move the arm.

 

[Xue Sheng]

I don't know how anybody can use the 1st WC form to train 6H. I show an example why the 1st WC form is not proper for that purpose.

Hands/feet
elbows/knees
Shoulders/hips

I disagree