Okinawian Kempo, Shaolin Kenpo, American Kenpo

[JowGaWolf]

Fine, but I am saying, that if you turn your body to face on the downward diagonal parry, you can run a punch up the middle...

Having trouble visualizing this. What stance are the 2 people in? Close or Open. Which hand is doing the downward Parry? Lead or Rear?

 

[Touch Of Death]

Having trouble visualizing this. What stance are the 2 people in? Close or Open. Which hand is doing the downward Parry? Lead or Rear?

I was talking about your combination three. You have to turn and face the action or you will get tied up.

 

[Touch Of Death]

While, not thhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ_6CejS3to
e same tech, here is what it looks like to, "Run it up through the middle"....

 

[JowGaWolf]

While, not thhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ_6CejS3to
e same tech, here is what it looks like to, "Run it up through the middle"....

thanks I think I understand what you are saying now. I know of some techniques that take a similar approach.
Thanks for the video.

 

[Buka]

Dude, it should knock him across the room.

A room this size, maybe.

 

[Touch Of Death]

A room this size, maybe.

It should be at least as hard as a slap in the face, and some people slap harder than others, I suppose. If a parry is your first move, you had better make it count.

 

[Flying Crane]

A room this size, maybe.

I almost bought that house!

 

[Buka]

Warning: This is a lot of information that is all somewhat interelated, so it may not be the most cohesive explanation. My apologies.
I explained in another thread about a month ago the differences as someone who has practiced both Shaolin Kempo Karate(SKK for convenience) and a form of Okinawan Kenpo, but will re-explain it here/link a resource here. There is also Shaolin Kenpo, which is different than SKK, and I will go into both.
Brief answer before I begin: The addition of Shaolin in the front is there for a legitimate (according to the founders) reason.
SKK, Shaolin Kenpo and Ed Parker Kenpo are somewhat related but all different styles. SKK and Shaolin Kenpo only share a similar name with Japanese kenpo and are not directly related. Shaolin Kenpo is derived from Shaolinquan and American Kenpo, while SKK is derived from American kenpo with a focus on shaolin animal philosophy.
So first, read through this ISKA [Shaolin Kenpo FAQs], specifically FAQ 3 and 8. Additionally, Ralph Castro trained in Honolulu as a student of Chow, and was part of the same club as Ed Parker. Due to this the two styles are similar since they have a similar background.
The only correction to the SKK part that I would make is that Villari learned from Nick Cerio, who learned both from George Pesare, whom it mentions, and Ed Parker, whom I don't think it mentions. Nick Cerio adapted Ed Parker kenpo to include shotokan karate forms.

To go more into detail about SKK, since that is the one I know: SKK was formed by Fred Villari, who trained under Nick Cerio and other instructors, becoming a 5th degree in Kenpo. He also went to the Caribbean (I believe, it's not important and annoying to find so don't feel like fact checking the location), and while he was there trained with local martial artists. These martial artists were practitioners of a local form of karate and a form of Kung Fu-I am unsure which one. He taught them kenpo, and in return they taught him both various techniques of their styles and the philosophies from their styles. He then took all three and created his own system that uses adapted kenpo for its techniques (similar to Cerio), adapted karate for many of its forms (IIRC almost the same as Cerio), and adapted Kung fu (different than Cerio) for its higher level forms and philosophy. Specifically, SKK has a 'five animal' philosophy, where each technique captures the essence of one of the five animals. Practitioners figure out as they train what animal(s) philosophy they fit best with, and focus on developing those techniques the most. Because of this combination he titled the style Shaolin Kempo Karate, and it forever gets confused with Shaolin Kenpo, which is explained in the link above.

There's also a whole thing about people having issues with Villari's teaching method, his claims, etc. and those people breaking away from him (my school included) but continued with SKK in their own fashion, but that's in-style politics that would bore anyone.

Going back to Kempodisciple's post......I'm rooting around in my closet looking for something else when I went into an old odds and ends box. In it was a business card from George Pesare's school from 1973 (when I used to go there and get the crap beat out of me)
It was a nifty card, one of those folding ones like a greeting card. The outsides of it were scratched to hell, but the inside is still pretty good. My wife scanned it at work and e-mailed it to me. But it was in html and I didn't know what to do with that. So I took a photo of my computer screen. Anyway, thought you guys might get a kick out of it. Especially it's less than political correctness.

 

[hoshin1600]

Going back to Kempodisciple's post......I'm rooting around in my closet looking for something else when I went into an old odds and ends box. In it was a business card from George Pesare's school from 1973 (when I used to go there and get the crap beat out of me)
It was a nifty card, one of those folding ones like a greeting card. The outsides of it were scratched to hell, but the inside is still pretty good. My wife scanned it at work and e-mailed it to me. But it was in html and I didn't know what to do with that. So I took a photo of my computer screen. Anyway, thought you guys might get a kick out of it. Especially it's less than political correctness.

How come on the right it says 3rd dan but on the left it says 6th degree black belt

 

[Touch Of Death]

How come on the right it says 3rd dan but on the left it says 6th degree black belt

Magic!

 

[Buka]

How come on the right it says 3rd dan but on the left it says 6th degree black belt

His son, Anthony George.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

I like the disclaimer on the bottom right