That's not gonna cut it, bro. "Multiple Chinese and Japanese arts" is not an art. Furthermore, I need some names of practitioners of these arts that have worn the clothing you have referred to.
Well Im only telling you from what I know mostly from magazines that I would read on the history of the martial arts, mostly Inside Karate when it was being published. Whether or not you believe me on my claims that was my source. How about you? Have you done research on the history of colored belts? You did say that the idea for the black belt in the martial arts came partially from the black band that swimmers in Japan would wear. I used to be a competitive swimmer myself although not in Japan and we didn't wear any kind of bands or anything based on our skill level, we just wore colors depending on what team we were on (as with most team sports, different swim teams have different colors that represent them.) Maybe it's different in Japan about what swimmers would wear, I wouldn't know as I've never swam competitively in Japan. Do you have experience? Have you been to Japan and seen swimmers wearing certain bands? What's your source for your claims?
Well I would also like to point out that if a student does quit right after making black belt, at least from what I've seen, they've stayed longer than most students as most students will quit way before making it to black belt. The martial arts has a very high turnover rate, that's just what I've seen with my experience having been to multiple dojos over the decades that I've been involved in the martial arts.
What, do you think what I've said here on the matter is a bunch of crap that I pulled out of my other end? Nothing I've said here is anything that hasn't already been said dozens, if not hundreds, of times on this forum by others.
If it isn't than you should have no problem providing sources.
Alright, aside from your posts, when in this forum has it been said that the black belt is based on the black band that swimmers would wear? Who has said that besides you?
And it has been said on this forum that Kano giving his more advanced students black belts back in Judo is not the entire story of the history of the belt system, its been said before on this forum although it was before you joined so you might've not seen it.
Yes that was before they knew that Frank Dux was a fraud, when they found out he was that's when they retracted the stories.
You have yet to provide any sources of your own.
Rather than continuing on with someone who's not playing with a full deck, I'll let you have this.
Before black belt is brown belt.
