Let's say in school a student asks their teacher what they need to do to get an A in the class. The teacher responds by saying the grade shouldn't be the emphasis, it's the work behind it that matters. Would that be an appropriate response from the teacher?
When I was in high school we had drivers ed, but they didn't teach us how to change tires.
Changing tires was (and I believe still is) taught in auto shop, where the school districts have qualified teachers and the means to teach it.
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Next, you’ll tell me they can’t dial a rotary phone.I can’t believe no one is teaching kids to drive a double clutch. Heck, there was a millennial that didn’t even know how to place a collect call at a public phone. What is this world coming to?
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It depends on the class, the teacher, and the student.
I get what you’re saying, and it sounds reasonable. But Having had three kids through school, I can tell you with absolute certainty that every teacher makes it very, very clear what you need to do for an A. They aren’t coy at all about it. They also make it clear to any parent who cares to attend the orientation.
And in most situations, that’s what you’d both want and expect. Mostly, I was poking at the lack of equivalence between the situations being compared. If someone asked what they needed to do to get their degree, there are certainly circumstances where the answer should be the list of requirements, and situations where the answer is more about the work to be done, and still other situations where the answer probably should point out the asker is getting far ahead of what they need to work on.
I don't think it is difficult to get black belt. In fact I agree with an instructor that used to say: If you can feed yourself with silverware and ride a bicycle you can become a Black Belt. All the rest is just time and effort.
I understand. But I also understand what @PhotonGuy is trying to say. And I think you're both right in different contexts. If the question is, even at a university, "What do I need to do to get an A?" there's some equivalence to "What do I need to do to get a black belt?"
if we want to be competent at any physical art it takes years of coaching , practice, sweat , commitment , and sacrifice. Football, Hockey , Baseball, Crossfit, Cycling , you name it, want to be competent and of competitive caliber , it is a life style that goes far beyond, showing up for class a few times a week for a few hours. We are retraining and disciplining body, mind, breathing, no one is making it harder than it needs to be, It is just hard and thats what it takes.
Who says that? I’ve heard it just means you’re kinda starting over and ready to learn more
I don't see any contradiction. I think it speaks to the time and commitment it takes and the resultant quality it produces. I like comparing it to a college degree. There is an order to things, Associates, Bachelors, Masters, Doctorate. There is really no difference when getting a black belt (and beyond). And just how the college journey takes longer for some and shorter for others, you see the same paths in the martial arts. What makes this even more extraordinary to me it that learning a martial art is totally voluntary for most, with no expectation of financial payback which is very different from most people going to college.
