Can you learn from video?

[Juany118]

Interesting comment, given that Keith Mazza has a quite extensive "correspondence course" of videos that would obviously start well before the student had a chance to visit him for hands on training.

I really don't see the relevance. It's a business, he knows they will sell. Simply because you produce and sell something doesn't mean it is the preferred method.

 

[KPM]

I really don't see the relevance. It's a business, he knows they will sell. Simply because you produce and sell something doesn't mean it is the preferred method.

And again....no one has said it is the "preferred" method....only that it is a workable method. At least for some people. So yes, it does have relevance. If Keith Mazza didn't think it was a workable method, he wouldn't offer it. He does not strike me as someone that is just in it for the money or for "narcissism" as some here have claimed for people that produce videos.

 

[Flying Crane]

This thread seems to have attracted all kinds of .......shall we say.....logic challenged individuals!

Indeed, it has.

 

[Flying Crane]

And again....no one has said it is the "preferred" method....only that it is a workable method. At least for some people. So yes, it does have relevance. If Keith Mazza didn't think it was a workable method, he wouldn't offer it. He does not strike me as someone that is just in it for the money or for "narcissism" as some here have claimed for people that produce videos.

Look, you go about your own training in whatever way you want. if you are satisfied with the results, then keep at it. Do what works for you, and nobody can, or wants, to stop you from doing that.

However, if you come on here and try to sell this notion that video instruction as anything but a supplemental tool to quality instruction directly with a good teacher, then I and others here who know better are going to challenge what you say. If you try to sell this idea to others, we are going to point out the falsehood in the sale so that some beginner who is looking for guidance in getting started and might stumble onto this thread might see the truth of the matter.

Do what you want for yourself. But when you start offering bad advice, expect to be challenged.

 

[Flying Crane]

I think you can learn something from videos, people can learn from books so why not from videos.

The thing is, that practical application isn't a thing you can learn on your own from a video, so to a certain extent yes....

Learning a martial art from a book is even worse than from a video.

 

[Jaeimseu]

While far from optimal, I think you can absolutely learn from video under certain circumstances. I think learning the basics of something like BJJ is possible, assuming you are working with partners who enable you to test what you are learning. I also think you would need to be disciplined enough to not try to learn too much at one time.

Like others have said, it's a great supplement. I used video a ton when I started training BJJ. It was an excellent way to review techniques at home. And I'm using videos now to keep things fresh in my mind since I can't attend classes at the moment.

I can even remember watching the UFC back in the early 90s and "rolling" with some other guys who had no grappling experience. While not "mastering" anything, I was able to get good enough at a few basic techniques to pull them off against resisting opponents with no experience or similar experience. Twenty years later it made the first couple weeks of training with a real instructor a lot easier.

So really, I think the question should be a personal you instead of a general you. Can YOU learn from video? I can, and have.


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[KPM]

Do what you want for yourself. But when you start offering bad advice, expect to be challenged.

Does anyone else here believe that in my OP that started this thread I was offering bad advice???

 

[KPM]

99% of people will disagree with you .I think , smart people can learn from any source of information . dogs and stupid people need a coach with a stick in order to memorize some movements .

Looking back, maybe Zuti's comment is more appropriate than I first thought!

 

[Flying Crane]

Looking back, maybe Zuti's comment is more appropriate than I first thought!

See? You really don't understand any of this stuff. Meh, do what you want.

 

[KPM]

See? You really don't understand any of this stuff. Meh, do what you want.

Ah contrare....perhaps it is you with limited understanding. Plenty of people have posted on this thread in support of the idea that it is possible to benefit from video.

 

[wckf92]

Plenty of people have posted on this thread in support of the idea that it is possible to benefit from video.

I posted my .02
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[Grenadier]

It's apparent that some folks will not agree with each other on this topic. That's fine, and there's no issue with attacking someone's message.

However, I'm simply going to ask y'all to refrain from the snipes at the one bearing the message...

 

[Flying Crane]

Ah contrare....perhaps it is you with limited understanding. Plenty of people have posted on this thread in support of the idea that it is possible to benefit from video.

I'm sure that must be it. My mistake.

 

[Hyoho]

KPM. I would have thought it had attracted some people who know what they are talking about. Show us your video please to back up your premise. Who you are and what you are does not show in your profile. For all we know we could be conversing with a keyboard warrior. Nothing in my profile either but if people read over some of my old posts they know who I am anyway and there are some on here that I teach.

 

[Buka]

I think Flying Crane and KPM agree on one key point "supplemental".

I know, there I go thinking again.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

I think you can absolutely learn from video under certain circumstances.

Agree with you 100% there.

If you (general YOU) can't learn this technique from the following video within 10 minutes, you should

- get a rope,
- find a quite place, and
- hang yourself,

You have only 2 arms and 2 legs. Your opponent also only has 2 arms and 2 legs. How complicate can any MA technique be?

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

I think Flying Crane and KPM agree on one key point "supplemental".

I know, there I go thinking again.

No, that can't be right. If that was the case, there would be no one left for them to call idiots and say they won't talk to anymore, before replying again.

 

[Buka]

God, we are all so passionately nuts.

 

[geezer]

...dogs and stupid people need a coach with a stick in order to memorize some movements .

A coach with a stick is just what I needed....

When I took up Escrima.


But then I have a ton of his videos too. I don't watch them very often, but when I do they bring back to mind so many things he said or showed us. I don't know if that's learning or just re-learning, but it really helps me.

 

[KPM]

KPM. I would have thought it had attracted some people who know what they are talking about. Show us your video please to back up your premise. Who you are and what you are does not show in your profile. For all we know we could be conversing with a keyboard warrior. Nothing in my profile either but if people read over some of my old posts they know who I am anyway and there are some on here that I teach.

And just who the heck are you!?? Don't recall even seeing you in this forum before. Regulars here know who I am, and have seen me on video. But seeing me on video has nothing to do with my premise. Idiots abound!