Wing Chun vs MMA

[Spinoza]

The thing with martial arts in general is the systems have all been made up at some point. Some people are going to do a better job of that than others.

Of course, but it goes beyond just the skills and diligence of the style's originator(s). There are MMA practitioners that never practice with a resisting/competitive opponent and there are TMA practitioners that do. Some people are going to be better teachers than others; some people are going to train better than others, regardless of their preferred style.

 

[drop bear]

Go read it Im not cutting and pasting things Ive already typed. But now we are bleeding one topic into multiple threads and this has nothing to do with Wing Chun so perhaps you can settle on one thread instead of bouncing around to different threads with the same argument

And I wonder why?

 

[ballen0351]

Driving is about the most dangerous thing you can do. So therefore the fear is greatest there. Police work does not even compare.

now your being as silly as your elephant argument

 

[ballen0351]

And I wonder why?

So you lost the argument your going to resort to acting like a 2 year old lol ok

 

[drop bear]

now your being as silly as your elephant argument

You are still trying to be special because you think it makes your argument valid. It doesn't. You cannot comprehend that other people face fear and death in their day to day life.
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&...4nSdBuuv4aXqWOBxw&sig2=Z7Pi7AXODBhdhJfflcOM0g

 

[Hanzou]

Think I might be out on a limb here but if you search for "Lei Tai fights" you get some american wannabe or european friendly version. For most asian fights you either have to search specifically or even better go to a chinese only website (forgot the name of their YouTube counterpart) to search for clips.

I am not saying this as someone who knows but rather using logical sense. Chinese people do not have access to YouTube, so finding information there is usually not gonna give any good results.

I did the search in Google, not Youtube.

 

[drop bear]

So you lost the argument your going to resort to acting like a 2 year old lol ok

Lol. No I was alluding to the idea that you were making up these non existing posts. And that because you were making them up you were never going to present them. And then that you would make up more stuff to disguise that fact.

And you did.

 

[ballen0351]

You cannot comprehend that other people face fear and death in their day to day life.

Of course they do IN THE REAL WORLD not the ring which has been my point all along

 

[Steve]

Of course they do IN THE REAL WORLD not the ring which has been my point all along

Ballen the real world for a cop has very little bearing on the real world for a non-cop. It's not self defense. It's professional risk.

 

[ballen0351]

Ballen the real world for a cop has very little bearing on the real world for a non-cop. It's not self defense. It's professional risk.

The risk itself of being shot, stabbed, knocked out and stomped, killed is the same risk that can happen to anyone at any time in the street no matter their profession. Dangerous professions like police military security guards even other criminals just happen to be at risk more often and for different reasons but the outcome is the same, dead is dead it doesn't matter if I'm killed at work or during a robbery attempt while im leaving a resturant on date night with my wife.

 

[Steve]

The risk itself of being shot, stabbed, knocked out and stomped, killed is the same risk that can happen to anyone at any time in the street no matter their profession. Dangerous professions like police military security guards even other criminals just happen to be at risk more often and for different reasons but the outcome is the same, dead is dead it doesn't matter if I'm killed at work or during a robbery attempt while im leaving a resturant on date night with my wife.

Choosing to risk violence as a profession vs self defense are fundamentally different things.

Think about your passionate rants against "the cage." Substitute the word "cop" and the rationale is the same. The specifics vary. Do you really not see it? Truly? Or are you just having a bit of fun in a cold night out fighting the good fight on the mean streets of Baltimore?

 

[ballen0351]

Choosing to risk violence as a profession vs self defense are fundamentally different things.

Think about your passionate rants against "the cage." Substitute the word "cop" and the rationale is the same. The specifics vary. Do you really not see it? Truly? Or are you just having a bit of fun in a cold night out fighting the good fight on the mean streets of Baltimore?

i,agree choosing to confront violence is different. But the violence is the same not matter if I choose to go to the call and they try to hurt me, or you choose to walk around downtown after a Seahawks game and the violence chooses you. Once it starts it's all the same. Thays my point perhaps I can't convey it the way I want too

 

[drop bear]

i,agree choosing to confront violence is different. But the violence is the same not matter if I choose to go to the call and they try to hurt me, or you choose to walk around downtown after a Seahawks game and the violence chooses you. Once it starts it's all the same. Thays my point perhaps I can't convey it the way I want too

No violence as a police officer is completely different to violence as a civilian.

You have protection of the law access to back up more tools time off work if you get injured.

You can't even compare the two.

 

[Steve]

No violence as a police officer is completely different to violence as a civilian.

You have protection of the law access to back up more tools time off work if you get injured.

You can't even compare the two.

totally agree.

 

[ballen0351]

No violence as a police officer is completely different to violence as a civilian.

You have protection of the law access to back up more tools time off work if you get injured.

You can't even compare the two.

no the violence is identical. The bullet doesn't care what clothes in wearing, a blade in my back isn't concerned about a badge on my chest, a boot to my face doesn't check to see if my hair cut is with in regulation. What leads up to the violence is different the violence is the same.

 

[ballen0351]

totally agree.

I don't. But tell me more about all your experience dealing with violence as a police officer.

 

[drop bear]

no the violence is identical. The bullet doesn't care what clothes in wearing, a blade in my back isn't concerned about a badge on my chest, a boot to my face doesn't check to see if my hair cut is with in regulation. What leads up to the violence is different the violence is the same.

No fighting a police officer subjects you to more rules that fighting anybody else the consequences are greater and you are more ikey to be caught. The badge does make a difference.

It is nothing like self defence.

 

[ballen0351]

No fighting a police officer subjects you to more rules that fighting anybody else the consequences are greater and you are more ikey to be caught. The badge does make a difference.

It is nothing like self defence.

not here it doesn't. There is no special law for police officers. Assault is the same no matter who the victim is. Murder is Murder there is no enhanced punishment

 

[Steve]

I don't. But tell me more about all your experience dealing with violence as a police officer.

You're a riot. Tell me more about your career as a professional MMA fighter?

I see now that you are completely unaware of your hypocrisy. I believe you don't even see it. Amazing.

 

[drop bear]

not here it doesn't. There is no special law for police officers. Assault is the same no matter who the victim is. Murder is Murder there is no enhanced punishment

So this is wrong? Anyway you get to tazer people that has to take the pressure off a bit.


What are the penalties for assaulting a cop in cities around the world?