If I remember correctly, it started because Bal'ee was bad mouthing Roger and saying he had beaten him in a fight. Roger called him on it, and the rest is history. I heard it was a nasty beating.
Maybe my terminology is .wrong. We would shoot for the lead leg, stand back up and walk them (front or back) into a takedown.
Is it possible you were competing in freestyle wrestling? Prohibition against attacking your opponent's legs or using your own is the biggest difference between Greco-Roman wrestling and other styles such as folk wrestling or freestyle wrestling. Even inadvertently grasping your opponent's legs is a foul.
This is curious for me. It was in the early & mid 80,s and, as I recall, it was always called it Roman-Greco. But looking at Google, Folkstyle seems to be the common name for high school and college.
Maybe. For what it's worth, I've never heard the term "Roman Greco" before. That's a new one for me. Folkstyle and freestyle wrestling are very similar. I'm guilty of using the two terms interchangeably, which is probably a bad habit.
Technically, these are all made-up words that don't exist in the Dictionary. They mean whatever the person using them want them to mean, just like "crapling."
"They mean whatever the person using them want them to mean, just like 'crapling.'
I think you have it completely backwards. Words are added to the dictionary because they are understood and have accepted meanings. They aren't invented by the editors. They are simply codified.
No, I don't have it backwards unless you do too, because I am saying something close to what you are.
I wouldn't know. According to my wife I'm never right.Did I do that right?
Well, this part of the thread is going on because there seems to be some confusion or lack of consensus between Dropbear and 'Treker about the difference between the <cough> 'words' of "bullshido" and "mcdojo." And it's not like OED is going to say that the one is right and the other wrong. So, yeah, these 'terms" are not exactly set in stone; far less so than even the somewhat flexible and evolving nature of English is.
You and me both. It's the cross we bear.
Okay. I hear you. I think what I'm reacting to here is how arbitrary your comment seems to me. Why those terms in this thread?
Meh. I guess I just got a wild hair.
You're right, those terms are often disputed and I've weighed in myself on some of them, ranging from "sport" through "traditional." And, yeah, they often mean different things to different people. A TKD guy might think one thing when he hear's "traditional" and a koryu heavy person might think something else. ...and these are terms that have a lot more history than "bullshido" and "mcdojo." I think the term "McDojo" is only about 20 years old or less and "Bullshido" is even younger and neither seem to have a universally agreed on definition even in the communities which use them aside from "bad martial arts."If you think these terms, which I think are pretty concrete overall, can mean anything, that doesn't bode well for discussions on things like sport, traditional, self defense, martial art, or any of the various terms used around here that often cause confusion in spite of being found in the dictionary. Shoot, there are some dudes around here who have some squirrelly ideas about what "experience" means, and one person tried to parse out a difference between "having experience with" and "being experienced." When he pulled that one out, I just gave up.
Can you believe Bullshido.net has been online since 2002?
I don't know if I ever mentioned this before, but back in the sixties, at least in the Boston area, there wasn't any wrestling in any high schools any of us ever heard about. Seems odd now thinking back on it.
Crazy. It's in all the schools around here. What I'm really happy to see is a robust judo program in the high schools around here, and has since the 1950s. It's a great compliment to wrestling. Wrestling is a winter sport, and judo is a spring sport, so kids can do both if they're interested. So, we've had Judo for longer than you guys have even had wrestling.
We had it out here in Arizona in the mid '60s, although it wasn't as big a deal as it later became. We just called it "wrestling" or "collegiate wrestling" ...but it was what they now refer to as "folkstyle". I'd heard about greco-roman and freestyle but never saw it done around here.
Wait ...isn't that a "wild hare"?
Crazy. It's in all the schools around here. What I'm really happy to see is a robust judo program in the high schools around here, and has since the 1950s. It's a great compliment to wrestling. Wrestling is a winter sport, and judo is a spring sport, so kids can do both if they're interested. So, we've had Judo for longer than you guys have even had wrestling.
What's really cool is that judo doesn't cut anyone and works on belts, not JV or Varsity, so everyone who wants to join the team can join, and everyone competes.
