Not wicca. But if you live in Japan the ninja were said to be "Wizards".
In anthropology, "witch" and "wizard" (or "sorcerer") are very distinct and very different terms. Please don't conflate the two.
In Hatsumis book " Ninjutsu: History and tradition; You can read the hachimon it's there unless you are one of those that say it was Mr. Hayes who made that book.
History and Tradition is basically bits and pieces of Hatsumi's writings (poorly translated by Hayes) interspersed with Hayes' own writings. This results in some amusing contradictions in the text, such as "Hatsumi" saying the ninja used a straight-edged sword with a square hilt and then the next page showing several photos of him using a curve-edged sword with an oval hilt (the only straight-edged ninja sword in that book is used by Hayes).
Additionally, the "ninja no hachimon" is never mentioned in
History and Tradition. I think you have your information seriously confused here.
So you least of all tell me that i wasted 22 years of my life.
Where exactly did Don say that?
If not read and READ some more. Read stephen turnbull books about the ninja and the samurai.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend Turnbull's "ninja" books except for the handful of quotations from period accounts (such as the
Nochi Kagami). Souryi's book on medieval Japanese social structures is a much better exposition, in my opinion, on the Iga communities.
You say flawed knowledge. What you know about world history Mr. Roley?
Don's knowledge of "world history" is irrelevant to the discussion.
There could be a Ninjutsu ryu in japan that maybe unheard of.
Unheard of in Japan but talked about on the Internet, eh??
You
do realize what that sounds like, don't you??
Ninja families where secret societies like the skulls, freemasons , and so...
They were nothing of the sort.
Pierre Souryi's
The World Turned Upside Down: Medieval Japanese Society quotes directly from a constitution ratified by the Iga commune around 1560. One of the articles of this constitution describes how the samurai in Iga took an oath and both the oath and the names of the samurai were posted in temples throughout the province.
It is a huge leap of the imagination to suppose these people were a "secret society". Even the
Nochi Kagami, an annal of the Ashikaga shogunate, mentions how a samurai from a particular family in Iga earned great merit as a "ninja" in front of the shogun's army and that, since that time, the "men of Iga" had continued to held considerable merit with their names "known throughout the land".
So someone could be training in the authentic Koga ryu and you would'nt know it. The Koga ryu's ichimonji-no-kamae it's basically the same for the koto ryu with the exeption of the front hand been bended at 90degrees. So it could be called a jumonji-ichimonji-no-kamae.
What is your source for this information??
Laterz.