I'm sorry, but the following families would disagree, Chen, Yang, Wu, Sun and Hao... also Zhaobao village, Cheng Manching, Willaim CC Chen, TT Liang, Liang Shouyu, Yang Zwing Ming, Fu Zhongwen, Tung Ying Chieh, Mak Ying Po, my Shifu, and the Tung/Dong family and many many more, and I disagree too
Competitive push hands, from a traditional perspective, is garbage
Me too, sorry for others not understanding an experience that has been shared.
Seemingly expecting what is shared to be some kind of canon for others to follow..
Have met with practitioners of each of the families listed,,,for most of them their practices are different.
Maybe due to level or what ever...not very effective with what ever they were trying or thinking of doing..
A common expression " lets try that again"
To be clear, "push hands" for me is a practice..to develop certain skill sets..
Others may feel different.
When I have met with them it was in the spirit of testing "my" practice not their practice.
I know there are always things the all hold back from all but their best students or family. But I will be honest, I do not buy into the whole Yangjia Michuan thing, anymore than I believe Yang Zhenduo learned from his father, because he didn't, sorry.
That's my question too. Why does anybody want to develop any skill that cannot be used in fighting?
HIs teachers were Yang Jianhou and Yang Shouhao.... then he should have a lot of obvious fajin in his form. The Fajin was not removed until Yang Chengfu.
It's funny that most of the Yang Taiji people don't even know what Fajin mean. One of my students wants to get his 4th degree BB. My assignment to him is:
Ok, just go study chen style ^_^
Can you obtain power generation information from "common sense" (such as compress and release)?
Already there in Tung Ying Chieh's Yang style. He has 2 fast forms that vary in speed. Had Fajin, and kicks and sweeps
Not sure how many leg skills have been used in Tung's Yang Taiji. I haven't seen any Taiji guy ever use this "刀(Dao) - sickle hook"
At 3.05 - 3.30, the "车轮步(Che Lun Bu) - wheeling step" is used nicely. By using the "leg skill", your opponent will fall down instead of being pushed away.
Brush knee twist step, embrace return tiger to mountain , step back repulse monkey.Not sure how many leg skills have been used in Tung's Yang Taiji. I haven't seen any Taiji guy ever use this "刀(Dao) - sickle hook"
MMA gal uses kouchi gari (minor inner reap) in a fight, like "刀(Dao) - [inner] sickle hook."Not sure how many leg skills have been used in Tung's Yang Taiji. I haven't seen any Taiji guy ever use this "刀(Dao) - sickle hook"
From the Taiji classics - “If there is up, there is down;For your practice, maybe that's how you see it.
In our practice, it's a sense of "emptiness."
To have a sense of guard means one has the "intent" to guard or prevent something by having the intent to do so, i.e., "guarding."
In my experience and practice, this intent is one of the things that blocks the development of the skills we practice. When I meet others outside my practice who play push hands with a "sense of guard" or similar mindset, it often doesn't work out well for them.
People watching might think, "Why doesn't the other person do this or that?" or "They’re overreacting."
In most cases, it's because they can't and are reacting to what they feel.
Taiji works on contact, depending on the nature of the contact, according to the level, "even before contact."
The practice of push hands is to develop this understanding while cultivating the skill.
Referred to as the "correct touch," with at least one person having this in training or in the group to help others. Without this, the level developed remains external, based on frame, counter techniques, and other factors.
This is why competitive push hands is not ideal as a practice, outside of the competition itself
which people practice for....
Interacting with those who do practice for competition, a good way of testing concept's in a somewhat controlled context to see if what one practices works, or needs adjustment.
As long as one keeps the purpose in mind and doesn't get caught up in the game.
For application after skill development, other skill sets need to be worked on, such as distancing, timing, and positioning.
"Start late and arrive first" means one is the point of interaction.
Change the point
"Following is leading, leading is following" a way to handle and control the interaction.
That sweep in the video is in Wu StyleNot sure how many leg skills have been used in Tung's Yang Taiji. I haven't seen any Taiji guy ever use this "刀(Dao) - sickle hook"
For you it means that..
