Ray
Master Black Belt
**************** never mind *******.. Sex isn't about jumping into bed with anyone that asks....
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**************** never mind *******.. Sex isn't about jumping into bed with anyone that asks....
ok so i used hypocrite wrong, actually maybe not so far wrong, after all she grew up with the abstinence because her mum believes in it. So she probably claim to believe in this even before she got pregnant.
Again, you don't seem to know what "hypocrisy" means.
Of course she probably believed in the moral superiority of abstinence (and it is not unheard of for people's children to believe things because they were taught to believe them by their parents in the first place). That doesn't mean sleeping with her boyfriend made her a hypocrite. It makes her someone who failed to live up to their moral standards. Just like the rest of us. She would be a hypocrit if she said it was wrong to engage in pre-marital sex but did it anyway and thought or expressed that it was OK for her to do it. I have seen no indication that she said or even believes this. In fact, from the little I know of Bristol Palin it seems to me to be quite the opposite, viz. she quite freely admits her behavior was wrong.
Pax,
Chris
Speak for yourself! LOL:uhyeah:Of course people have self control. Sex isn't about jumping into bed with anyone that asks, not even for teenagers.
Speak for yourself! LOL:uhyeah:
A 67-year-old man from Wisconsin was arrested by police yesterday for shooting his TV because he was so enraged with Bristol Palin's moves on Dancing With The Stars.
Steven Cowan apparently told authorities that he felt Bristol was not a good dancer and was only on the show because of her famous mother, former presidential candidate Sarah Palin.
Saw this in the Words to live by thread, and I couldn't help noticing that it was at odds with the comment above:and most people don't have self control. I dont think they should either not if they dont want to. And seriously, abstinence until marriage. I think, what if many people never get married? Do those people want to remain virgins til they die? I knew I didnt want to. I think, Yeah, do it if you want to, but it wasnt for me, and I dont think it is for most people, really.
The quotes in my sig. For 2 examples. You don't have to hurt someone else to succeed in life, and you gotta have some discipline cause if you didnt have rules to live by you wouldnt get anywhere.
Aw Shucks, I thought I was gonna make a wisecrack...then I figured it would either offend someone or make me look like a bigger idiot...If it's that bad PM!
MADISON, Wis. A rural Wisconsin man apparently enraged by Bristol Palin's "Dancing with the Stars" routine blasted his television with a shotgun, leading to an all-night standoff with a SWAT team, investigators said.
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When Palin, the 20-year-old daughter of tea party favorite Sarah Palin, began her routine, Cowan jumped up and began swearing, saying something like "The (expletive) politics." His wife said he was upset that a political figure's daughter was dancing on TV even though he felt she didn't have talent.
Abstinence only education doesn't work. The recipients of said education have sex earlier, use protection less, catch more disease, and have more unintended pregnancies than their peers who receive comprehensive sex ed. You can talk about morality and permissivity and all the rest, but the unambiguous fact remains that the "immoral, permissive" education some decry does a better job of keeping their children chaste than their own preferred method.
I agree; abstinence only teaching doesn't work. I don't have a problem with teaching about birth control methods -- so long as parents have the final say about what their kids get taught, and as long as we pair it with teaching responsibility and avoid dismissive teaching of abstinence.Abstinence only education doesn't work. The recipients of said education have sex earlier, use protection less, catch more disease, and have more unintended pregnancies than their peers who receive comprehensive sex ed. You can talk about morality and permissivity and all the rest, but the unambiguous fact remains that the "immoral, permissive" education some decry does a better job of keeping their children chaste than their own preferred method.
Apprently you aren't the only one upset with Palin:
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ncing-With-The-Stars-moves.html#ixzz15ZiRsRNc
I don't know if she is a good dancer or not, but of course she is on the show because of her mother is famous and gave the Palin family a sort of celebrity status. DUH!
All Ms. Palin said was that "abstinence is a realistic choice." She said nothing about, nor did she promote abstinence only education. There is a perception that everyone is 'doing it', and that creates peer pressure. It may help some people to know that they don't have to give in to such pressure and that there really is a choice.
Saw this in the Words to live by thread, and I couldn't help noticing that it was at odds with the comment above:
but it isnt realistic because it doesnt work People promoting abstinence until the cows come home. but it isnt working. so how is what she said right. Thats what annoyed me about it.
Again, she promoted it as a choice, a realistic personal choice. She wasn't shoving abstinence down anyone's throat or saying it is the only way. With all the pressure put on young people to engage in sexual activity, it may help a some people that are being pressured in to having sex before they feel ready, to say "no". Having been the pressurer and pressuree at times when I was younger, I can appreciate the liberating message that it is a choice.
What an interesting comment. Do you often free spar with people who don't want to have self-control? Do you train with an instructor who has no self-control? Are you married to someone with no self-control?
Well, yes they would remain virgins until they died. But remaining a virgin wouldn't be the thing that killed them, would it? The modern notion that sexual congress ranks slightly ahead of food and water on the hierarchy of needs is a laugh. The people I know personally who can't seem to comprehend going without also seem to be the people who reduce sex to an animal-like instinct, viewing people as no different than a rutting animal. Not so great, IMNSHO.
Pax,
Chris