Siu Lim Tau Comparison

[KPM]

^^^^^ He lost all credibility with me long ago!

 

[KPM]

Guy is now on post #399 and still hasn't shared what the WSLVT "little idea" behind SNT is. Instead, complains about someone else not providing him enough specific answers to his probing questions. And let me just say...right here and now....that if the moderators now go after NB for using a "bad word" and are saying nothing to Guy and LFJ about constantly stirring up trouble here with the way they post.....this will be a huge and glaring problem with the way things are moderated here! Hopefully that doesn't happen, but the moderation here is not at all transparent. Just sayin........

 

[Nobody Important]

Guy is now on post #399 and still hasn't shared what the WSLVT "little idea" behind SNT is. Instead, complains about someone else not providing him enough specific answers to his probing questions. And let me just say...right here and now....that if the moderators now go after NB for using a "bad word" and are saying nothing to Guy and LFJ about constantly stirring up trouble here with the way they post.....this will be a huge and glaring problem with the way things are moderated here! Hopefully that doesn't happen, but the moderation here is not at all transparent. Just sayin........

I toned it down.

 

[guy b]

You are now retracting your statements. Why is that?

Please quote me, otherwise I can only assume you are lying.

You thought you could bs me with your strategy bit until I called you out on it.

I haven't "bs'd you with my strategy bit", and you haven't "called me out". All you appear to be doing is running away when required to provide like for like info in order to get what you are after. This is getting to be quite a familiar routine.

The VT strategy was already provided on another thread. I hope that it helps you put the pieces together in a more coherent order. The little idea has a profound influence on the whole of the system including strategy, but obviously it isn't just the strategy or there wouldn't have been any need for the discussion on this thread, given that the strategy was openly posted some time before.

You sir are a troll who doesn't know a damn thing about WC other than what you can Google. You can take your weak attempts at a gotcha moment and shove them.

You have lost all credibility with me.

What little you do know of WC has been at the expense of internet trolling. The fact that you constantly argue points based on visual difference and application is a dead give away. You have absolutely no comprehension of WC concept or theory

Gaining credibility with you is a low priority for me. I am sorry that you can't see the obvious problems in those clips and I understand why you might be frustrated. But don't blame the messenger. Your system apparently doesn't contain the little idea of YM VT and, if functional, is clearly a different system. I'm ok with that.

The least someone like you could do is extend the courtesy to others here by calling them Sifu, they after all are responsible for what little information you do possess.

 

[guy b]

Guy is now on post #399 and still hasn't shared what the WSLVT "little idea" behind SNT is.

If your wing chun related system doesn't have the important thinking then that is a shame. If it does then you haven't provided it, so I don't see what possible complaint anyone could have.

I am quite surprised that nobody is aware of the fundamental info that makes the system work.

 

[KPM]

I can only assume you are lying.

----Of course you would!

All you appear to be doing is running away when required to provide like for like info in order to get what you are after. This is getting to be quite a familiar routine.

---Oh my God! The irony is killing me!


The little idea has a profound influence on the whole of the system including strategy,

---And are you ever going to actually tell us what this "little idea" is, now that you are at post #404?



Gaining credibility with you is a low priority for me.

---Yeah, well, at this point I don't think you have any credibility with ANYONE here! At least not anyone that has actually been paying attention lately. It really is time for you to go.

 

[Nobody Important]

Please quote me, otherwise I can only assume you are lying.



I haven't "bs'd you with my strategy bit", and you haven't "called me out". All you appear to be doing is running away when required to provide like for like info in order to get what you are after. This is getting to be quite a familiar routine.

The VT strategy was already provided on another thread. I hope that it helps you put the pieces together in a more coherent order. The little idea has a profound influence on the whole of the system including strategy, but obviously it isn't just the strategy or there wouldn't have been any need for the discussion on this thread, given that the strategy was openly posted some time before.



Gaining credibility with you is a low priority for me. I am sorry that you can't see the obvious problems in those clips and I understand why you might be frustrated. But don't blame the messenger. Your system apparently doesn't contain the little idea of YM VT and, if functional, is clearly a different system. I'm ok with that.

Spare me your rhetoric troll. You're not fooling anyone with your double talk, attempts to entrap, flippant remarks, parroting or table turning in an attempt extract information you lack. You've been trolling the internet for years pretending to be a martial artist and arguing with others to boost your low self esteem. You have absolutely nothing to contribute to any discussion other than divisiveness. You are nothing but an insignificant internet tough guy trying to exert an authority you don't possess. Go sell your bs somewhere else clown.

 

[Nobody Important]

If your wing chun related system doesn't have the important thinking then that is a shame. If it does then you haven't provided it, so I don't see what possible complaint anyone could have.

I am quite surprised that nobody is aware of the fundamental info that makes the system work.

Sorry I'm not gonna explain it to you again. I'm not the idiot whisperer.

 

[guy b]

Spare me your rhetoric troll. You're not fooling anyone with your double talk, attempts to entrap, flippant remarks, parroting or table turning in an attempt extract information you lack. You've been trolling the internet for years pretending to be a martial artist and arguing with others to boost your low self esteem. You have absolutely nothing to contribute to any discussion other than divisiveness. You are nothing but an insignificant internet tough guy trying to exert an authority you don't possess. Go sell your bs somewhere else clown.

What a strange reaction, given that the only specific information that has been posted about the system has come from the WSL VT practitioners here. I can see why you might be frustrated, but really your lack of access to the YM VT system it isn't anything to do with me.

Please, if you don't want to speak to me, just don't respond. I am not posting for your benefit at the end of the day.

 

[guy b]

Sorry I'm not gonna explain it to you again. I'm not the idiot whisperer.

What you described wasn't the little idea. It was instead the kind of pseudo intellectual but ultimately meaningless gap filling that many of those involved in the mainland systems resort to because, simply put, the info has been lost.

Given that the YKS and YC system SNT forms which were posted clearly lack the litte idea thinking, and given that your understanding of the system is very widely different from the understanding in YM VT, I don't find myself wishing for any further explanation, and I can see why you might find continued discussion to be increasingly embarrassing.

In this case your angry bluster is understandable and I am sorry that your ego is a problem in terms of your ability to learn, but ultimately it isn't anything to do with me or any responsibility of mine to provide you with what you are looking for.

 

[Nobody Important]

What you described wasn't the little idea. It was instead the kind of pseudo intellectual but ultimately meaningless gap filling that many of those involved in the mainland systems resort to because, simply put, the info has been lost.

Given that the YKS and YC system SNT forms which were posted clearly lack the litte idea thinking, and given that your understanding of the system is very widely different from the understanding in YM VT, I don't find myself wishing for any further explanation, and I can see why you might find continued discussion to be increasingly embarrassing.

In this case your angry bluster is understandable and I am sorry that your ego is a problem in terms of your ability to learn, but ultimately it isn't anything to do with me or any responsibility of mine to provide you with what you are looking for.

Keep telling yourself that kiddo, maybe you'll actually come to believe it. I'm done feeding you troll, go find dinner elsewhere and take your imagined superior methods with you. We're through.

 

[KPM]

What a strange reaction, given that the only specific information that has been posted about the system has come from the WSL VT practitioners here. I can see why you might be frustrated, but really your lack of access to the YM VT system it isn't anything to do with me.

---Oh the irony is literally dripping from this one! Is he actually reading the same forum that the rest of us are reading????

 

[KPM]

What you described wasn't the little idea.

---And you are now at post #410 and STILL haven't described it at all!

 

[guy b]

We're through.

Personally when I don't want to respond to someone I just don't. No need to declare it for the umpteenth time.

 

[guy b]

I can only assume you are lying.

----Of course you would!

It mustn't feel very satisfying to have to resort to dishonest arguing tactics

 

[KPM]

It mustn't feel very satisfying to have to resort to dishonest arguing tactics

Post #415. Need I say more??

 

[LFJ]

You've already elaborated on what your strategy is and I'll confirm that ours is the same, it is simply sectioned and cataloged under the divisions of Position, Bridge, Control, Hit and Return.

Since you mentioned using something like a crab guard in your WC, it brings me back to how vastly different our strategies must be.

It's still unclear what sort of manifestations these vague tag lines would have in action, but you wouldn't be able to employ our strategy from the crab guard in boxing. So, our strategies cannot be the same, except in the very broadest of terms.

 

[Nobody Important]

Since you mentioned using something like a crab guard in your WC, it brings me back to how vastly different our strategies must be.

It's still unclear what sort of manifestations these vague tag lines would have in action, but you wouldn't be able to employ our strategy from the crab guard in boxing. So, our strategies cannot be the same, except in the very broadest of terms.

If you say so, the EWBIHB isn't our only guard there are others.

I get it, you have an abnormal compulsion to project yourself as someone in possession of a superior method. Just like a handful of others that have come and gone. It would be nice one day if someone would come along and actually prove it. Until then I won't hold my breath.

Meanwhile I'll continue doing what I do and you can continue to practice forum Kung Fu. You know, because it is highly effective in the real world.

Tootles.

 

[KPM]

Since you mentioned using something like a crab guard in your WC, it brings me back to how vastly different our strategies must be.

It's still unclear what sort of manifestations these vague tag lines would have in action, but you wouldn't be able to employ our strategy from the crab guard in boxing. So, our strategies cannot be the same, except in the very broadest of terms.

Post #417. Are you or Robin every going to actually answer the question in this thread that has been asked of you multiple times? Are you going to tell us what the "little idea" of the WSLVT SNT form is or not? Others have shared and contributed. Why aren't you?

 

[LFJ]

I get it, you have an abnormal compulsion to project yourself as someone in possession of a superior method.

I'm not sure why you think so, unless, inferiority complex?

I didn't say my strategy is superior to yours, only that it is impossible from the guard you described. So, we must be very different.

Given that I don't know how your method works, it could be better, for all I know. Don't be too hard on yourself.