Siu Lim Tao - Proper breathing
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You don't have to be Buddhist or believe in Qigong to do a simple mindfulness meditation. I learned the whole concept of settling the mind as part of SNT right from the start in my initial training in Wing Chun. Of course, we didn't do the SNT as slowly as we have been talking about Ip Man doing it!
Neither of us were there and neither of us know Ip Man's true motivations. I am saying anyone that took up to an hour to do just the Saam Bai Fut section of the SNT form....going at such an agonizingly slow pace....was likely doing it as a form of meditation. You are saying he was likely doing it as a form of fight training. We'll let other people form their own opinions as to which they think is the most plausible.
I don't know much about training for swimming, but thanks for posting. Interesting.
Your assumption is too specific. Slow training is not something you grow out of.
I am referring to VT, not to sprinting. Refer to the post by Mograph if you would like to learn about the rationale for slow training in sports.
I am saying anyone that took up to an hour to do just the Saam Bai Fut section of the SNT form....going at such an agonizingly slow pace....was likely doing it as a form of meditation. You are saying he was likely doing it as a form of fight training. We'll let other people form their own opinions as to which they think is the most plausible.
Seems a rather clutching at straws kind of explanation, since there are good reasons for slow training which are well known in VT. Most likely YM was training that way for a reason contained within the system, rather than a completely unrelated one. Wouldn't you say?
I don't mind if anyone else would like to think he was meditating; the popularity of wrong opinions doesn't affect my own.
Noone is wrong in a matter where truth can not be discovered. You are just as much speculating as everyone else.
For me personally I would say this, doing SNT that long amount of time purely for training elbow. It seems rather illogical. Given age, experience and how his body already has adapted and due to his age will probably not adapt any further.
Second I do not agree that elbow training is needed to be continued that slow as you think, reason being that if you train this often which YM did. You would not need to spend hours for the purpose of maintaining a good elbow structure since it is already there. Just training will maintain such a structure.
If it does not, you are probably doing something very wrong and with a high risk of injuring yourself in the long term. Perhaps something to consider for yourself and your own future. After all we all have a goal to continue training what we do even when growing too old for our own minds to catch up.
wckf92
Master of Arts
Balance of probability means that some opinions are less speculation than others. Not "just as much"
I am sorry it offends you that I am not a relativist
So we have established that most on the forum train wing chun systems which do not contain good reasons for slow training, or for continuing such training beyond a beginner stage. That's ok with me. It should be ok with all of you too, since it is after all what you believe, and you must have reason for doing so. It is nothing to get annoyed about. We can all agree to disagree.
wckf92
Master of Arts
While VT is not Tai Chi or Yiquan, both have similar slow movement training methodologies. It is more limited and specific in VT, more general and extensive in TC and YQ. People who are very good at Tai Chi and Yiquan continue slow movement training as long as they continue training, same as in VT. There is a specific reason for it. If you are interested in these systems you train it and continue to train it.
Nope, doesn't offend me at all... just an typical (and anticipated) response is all...
Then I am sorry for being predictably non-relativist. At least I made you smile.
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