And if a target that we want to hit, isnt open or available at that moment, we simply do something to open it up. Come on man, this is basics 101. Even the Gracies do it. They're thinking multiple moves ahead. You simply set the person up, so you can get the opening you want.
A nice reply... but it ignores my question completely. I did not ask how you would open their stance to increase vulnerability, that is common sense. I asked what you would do when you COULD NOT. You did nothing to answer that, and are answering a question I don't think I asked, or care to have an answer about. Frankly because what you're saying is as obvious as saying the sun would set. Of course you open or lead when they have an impenetrable guard. That wasn't the question though.
LMAO! Dude, I've been training longer than you've been breathing. Trust me, I've done, and still do, push-ups all the time, and yes, I do them on my knuckles too. My point was simply...not everything requires massive amounts of strength. Striking the arms...sure, I've done it, I've had people do it to me, during fighting. Of course, thats not all I do to open a target, and I'd like to think thats not all you do either.
Naturally. I would agree with you that location is even more important than the power generated. Hence how feeble blows to a temple or upper arm or lower neck can leave people dazed for hours with minimal force. I think we've all felt it when someone just taps us on the head, to demonstrate internal workings, and felt themselves go limp from the blow, which could hardly be called that. And naturally, there are a plethora of ways, as I'd like to think all martial artists know, in how to open a guard. Where it gets really interesting is parrying with the very skilled, and the mindgames that tend to develop.
What it seems to me, is that you're falling into the typical cult like mentality of some martial artists. They seem to blindly follow, word for word, every single thing their teacher tells them, totally disregarding all other advice. Hell, as proof that you're doing that, just take a peek at all of the threads here, which involve you, where we see many people giving advice, saying that certain things that you're saying are wrong, etc, yet you disregard them. Oh well....
And we can also, going over those same threads, see where I do and acquiesce that. You can also see how many give me erroneous advice, ignorant of my own styles and background. I defend what should be, in regards to myself, and I do not where I am wrong. You will see me admit my errs time and time and time again, but I am not the kind of person to blindly follow in cult worship. I have a few masters, and individuals I respect greatly, because they have proven themselves to be people worthy of that respect. I have trained under masters I eventually left because I lost faith in their ability to teach, and my own abilities to be developed under their guidance.
If a person gives me something conducive which I can add to my own strategies in the ring, I happily use them, and give credit. But I've yet to see this, apart from Oaktree. I find his insights toward Bagua very effective. But then again, he is also blessed with a wonderful teacher, who is still alive as well.
[/QUOTE]Your statement was that one needs to do lots of pushups in order to get that KO power. I was proving to you that its not all about that, but more of the location of the strike.[/QUOTE]
My apologies for not being clearer; my stance is not that push-ups blanket give you a KO, and a KO might need even be the desired result. Putting them down, at Khans, related more toward beating a person down until their will to fight was finished. It wasn't about winning the fight, but about all the fights to come as well, in that one fight. Push-ups will suffice for that, but I would advise getting a heavy bag, and somebody reallllllly big who can take blows.
I can recall working with one individual of zulu descent who no matter how many cinderblocks I could break, my punches to the midsection hardly phased. Huge guy, over 7 feet, so I was happy when we traded punches to the midsection and eventually I was able to make him wince. That being said, his punches floored the hell out of me. But then again, I recall his hands being easily as big as my head. Dude was a giant.
And... Who knows when Shaq might decide to mug you.:ultracool
Sorry Alex. I have to disagree with most of your comments. :asian:
That is your prerogative.
Alex, the one inch punch is not a party trick. If your video is an indication of the way you fight then you would have no need to use it. If you are engaged at close range, the short punch is what you have available. Often this could be from one inch although often you may have a little more. The one inch punch is normally a vertical fist. There is no torque involved.
Maybe where you train it isn't, but in this area, I think almost every martial artist I know, underbelt and black belt can perform the 'one inch punch' to considerable degree. You can do it with a horizontal or vertical oriented fist, I've seen both, and neither seemed to produce more push than the other. I'm not sure where you would think the application isn't useful to me, though I will be quite honest in my statement that if you get close range, the person had better be prepared to deal with elbows and knees. Ionno why in close range you'd go for a punch when there are far more useful techniques at your disposal given the range. Granted, this is why the 'one-inch' comes in handy, but... why do a party trick when you can slam them to the neck with your elbows? It seems like underkill to do a one-inch punch, where you could easily use your hips to generate a solid elbow blow.
Your understanding, here is so far from the truth that I find it impossible to believe you use your hips to generate power. What you are describing is power developed by turning your torso and although that includes the hips, it is not generated from the hips. The Okinawans use the same power generation that you find in Bagua. Once again from your video you would not have an opportunity to use your hips as you are nowhere near your opponent. Bio mechanically you are using your hips to make distance and you can't do both at once. The whole body and orientation bit is just not part of the hip generated punch. It is what you do with punches taught statically in basic karate classes but is not relevant in a fight. In a fight you punch from the position your find yourself in, even if you are on one foot.
Okinawans focus on redirection of the opponent as opposed to their own energy generation? This is news to me. I would not say Okinawans generate the same force as Bagua, I would say that about Aikido however. I suppose our views are diametrically opposed however. I am not sure what kind of fights you've been in, but those sound more like the brawls you'll see in the video I posted, or the security officer you can watch a video in. While it is true, you can throw a punch from one foot, I can't imagine a self-defense situation where a person would do this. Chances are I'm not using my purty kicks to do anything but kick them in the neck, head, or groin, and sweeps.
There are multiple occasions in the video where you can see with each strike rotation on the hip. Granted, not all the strikes are like this, but you can see quite a few certainly in how Alec is operating.
Forgive me for saying, that is crap. By the time you have hit the arms of someone who can fight until they falter you will have been wiped of the floor. To do what you claim to be able to do you would have to be inside their range and once again judging on your size and your video that just isn't going to happen. Besides that, striking the points on the outsides of the of the arms of someone who has their arms in a defensive pose will be unlikely to have the effect you describe. I have allowed a so called expert to hit my arms in this manner with absolutely no response. I then get referred to as an example of a 'non-responder' but I prefer to think of it as a technique that will probably fail under pressure.
My small size gives me awesome advantage for getting through guards. There are people who are 'non-responders', but this seems more likely inaccuracy in applying the technique. I think all techniques fail under pressure... if used incorrectly. If I'm going to strike their arms, the tactics switch- I stay out of range, always. The nice thing about TKD, and Kendo, is gaining the ability to back up and just never get tired of kicking. I've run laps backwards doing this, and could probably back up till the end of time, circling, and just kicking. Most people after several minutes just five up- it's not worth the cardio it requires to sprint and punch, which most aren't used to.
Staying out of range, and hitting the surface, their arms, is not hard to do. It is time consuming, and inadvisable in a situation involving multiples.
But then again, I don't understand why in a serious fight why you'd go for a tactic of striking the arms. Credit card, kick their shins in, their knees, elbows, and throat.
A tactic I enjoy is stepping on a persons foot. They can't go anywhere and it gives me a height advantage at times, which you wouldn't think such a big deal, but can be.
It amazing how often a well placed hand can jam any advance. It's also amazing how often people leave it out and dont expect it to be grabbed, or they thrown.
The trick is to know when to use things where. If I hit a person in the same place 3 times on the arms, and there is not even the tiniest lowering... i'd abandon the tactic against them. You modify everything as you go, per the individual. I'd switch to false openings, and maybe switch to striking them at the joints, lightly.
We should probably make distinction between sparring, and survival though. We did 5 on 5's today, and the first half hour was practical self-defense. The second half hour in our second hour was spent what id call continuous non-point sparring.
