Panhandlers
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hardheadjarhead
Senior Master
Adept said:
You're right, Adept. I was wrong. The number isn't as high as I posted earlier...though it is up to five times higher than your estimate:
http://www.nationalhomeless.org/mental.html
http://www.nrchmi.samhsa.gov/facts/facts_question_2.asp
A lessoned learned. Its only one out of four. My bust.
Regards,
Steve
Adept
Master Black Belt
Well then, the homeless just seem to keep pace with the rest of society.
http://www.mydr.com.au/default.asp?Section=mentalhealth
http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/speeches/mii93.htm
Of course, the real kicker is that (especially in a country the size of the US) its nearly impossible to take an accurate survey. Your sample groups would need to be extensive, and from each area of each state. At least 10% of all homeless people from urban, suburban, large town, small town and rural areas. From every state.
http://www.mydr.com.au/default.asp?Section=mentalhealth
http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/speeches/mii93.htm
Of course, the real kicker is that (especially in a country the size of the US) its nearly impossible to take an accurate survey. Your sample groups would need to be extensive, and from each area of each state. At least 10% of all homeless people from urban, suburban, large town, small town and rural areas. From every state.
-There are so many ways to look at these situations. I lived for three months in Mexico, stayed in Cuernavaca, and traveled a bit. After having so many poor kids walk up and ask for money, I can say that I will never hand out money to a panhandler again. I'll admit, part of my mentality concerns my effort, my money. Another part looks at the State of New York and just gets ticked off. We are taxed quite heavily in NY, and a lot of money goes to social services. When the bums come out, I can only say, listen, I'd love to help you, but there are plenty of services available in the city to help you get back on your feet.
-Homelessness is a choice for some, others just have it bad. Does each individual case require close scrutiny to ensure whether or not helping out is justified? My indirect answer to that is this: there are too many people in this country and the system cannot handle it. There are many other plausible answers as well, and some of them have been mentioned. There have also been some good posts here in regards to fixing the problem.
-We all have our standards, and I suppose its natural to initially judge others using those standards. I don't believe in any god, nor do I adhere to the notion of Karma. Cosmic justice maybe. However, I do believe in helping out those I can. My family and friends come before everything else. Beyond, I'll figure it out as I go along. Should I try to help everyone?
-I certainly believe most of us would like to help everyone who is down and out, try to get them back into life. And sometimes it is hard to weed out the bad ones who only want handouts. Lazy slugs bloated with materialistic desires, yet lacking good work ethics and personal responsibility. I know a guy who called a friend of mine and told him to go to work so he (the other guy) could go get his check from the mailbox...loser. Perfectly capable of working, but mooching off the system.
-A lot needs to be done, much reforming of the system, better education, voting out the politicians who thrive by being control freaks and greedy bastards. Unfortunately, this nation seems to be sliding down without any signs of stopping. I can say for certain, if I ever have kids of my own, they will do what is right, as my parents and friends have taught me. Thanks for listening.
A---)
-Homelessness is a choice for some, others just have it bad. Does each individual case require close scrutiny to ensure whether or not helping out is justified? My indirect answer to that is this: there are too many people in this country and the system cannot handle it. There are many other plausible answers as well, and some of them have been mentioned. There have also been some good posts here in regards to fixing the problem.
-We all have our standards, and I suppose its natural to initially judge others using those standards. I don't believe in any god, nor do I adhere to the notion of Karma. Cosmic justice maybe. However, I do believe in helping out those I can. My family and friends come before everything else. Beyond, I'll figure it out as I go along. Should I try to help everyone?
-I certainly believe most of us would like to help everyone who is down and out, try to get them back into life. And sometimes it is hard to weed out the bad ones who only want handouts. Lazy slugs bloated with materialistic desires, yet lacking good work ethics and personal responsibility. I know a guy who called a friend of mine and told him to go to work so he (the other guy) could go get his check from the mailbox...loser. Perfectly capable of working, but mooching off the system.
-A lot needs to be done, much reforming of the system, better education, voting out the politicians who thrive by being control freaks and greedy bastards. Unfortunately, this nation seems to be sliding down without any signs of stopping. I can say for certain, if I ever have kids of my own, they will do what is right, as my parents and friends have taught me. Thanks for listening.
A---)
A number of reasons... the chief of which is that empathy and concern for others is one of the noblest human traits (although it can be seen in other species as well), and although some may see giving as weakness, I see it as an honorable trait.Adept said:
kenpo tiger
Senior Master
If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And -- if I am only for myself, what am I?
The wise man does not speak in the presence of one wiser than himself. He does not interrupt when his fellow speaks. He is not hasty to answer. He asks questions that are relevant gives answers to the point. He deals with first things first and last things last. He readily admits when he does not know about a matter. He acknowledges the truth.
You know who you are. Have some compassion for your fellow humans. KT
The wise man does not speak in the presence of one wiser than himself. He does not interrupt when his fellow speaks. He is not hasty to answer. He asks questions that are relevant gives answers to the point. He deals with first things first and last things last. He readily admits when he does not know about a matter. He acknowledges the truth.
You know who you are. Have some compassion for your fellow humans. KT
