Yes, that would have been a good discussion. tez didn't make it. She attacked the author of the article and me, I don't respond well to being attacked. My posts point out the fact that the author of the article had plenty of information available on NHS policy toward premature infants and in a quick search, the Netherlands. If she had just countered it with her articles and information, in a polite way, then we could have discussed how accurate the author was. I can see where you would be of two minds on the topic, life doesn't seem to have been easy for you in a medical sense. I think I remember that you have kids, though, surviving the ordeal allowed them to have a chance, which is a benefit, though hard won one, on your part.
You miss the point: my viewpoint
is nuanced because of my experience. I'd never have an abortion (obviously) or be party to one, and raised my children to have one or be party to one. Beyond that, I'd
never call someone who did have one, or performed them a "murderer of unborn human babies," pretty much regardless of gestation period. I'd never call someone who had a live birth at 23 or 24 weeks that they chose not to save with extraordinary medical care a "murderer of unborn human babies," nor would I call a doctor who was involved in making that decision. I'd never call someone who provided medical care to such a live birth a fool, a dreamer, a Bible-thumper or wasteful, though I might question their decision making based on the prognosis-it might just be cruel to allow a blind and crippled baby to struggle through life, but it also might not-of course, it's not
my decision.
The other point you miss, of course, is that you insulted Tez and Mark's country directly: not their medical policies, which we both might
question, but their nation and almost all of the European continent-whether this was done to deliberately contrast with U.S. policies (where medical care
still might be withheld from an early term delivered fetus, depending upon the state it took place in) or to attempt to expose U.S. infant mortality statistics as being slanted doesn't matter: you insulted their country, and you should say you're sorry-it's always the same with your posts-being right is so much more important than how you treat people, and what you have to say is so much more important than how you say it-or what anyone else has to say-that it doesn't even seem like you're even remotely interested in a "good discussion."
In fact, it seems as though you have no idea what a "good discussion" is at all-time after time, you'll insist on being right when presented with facts that contradict your viewpoint, refuse to admit when you're wrong, and never acknowledge that it might be that you've hurt someone's feelings, or even that they have any. Your posts are the product of someone who thinks of Rush Limbaugh and Breitbart.com as valid political discourse, and that constantly shouting down the other person with a barrage of refutation is a valid debate technique.
Predictably, rather than address what I have to say, you'll likely post another COPYPASTA and quotes to demonstrate how you're right-it gets, frankly, quite tiresome, and makes genuine conservative viepoints, or even liberal Republican viewpoints, get lost in the constant din of inanities.....
