left wing movies

[billc]

I am posting this here because it is of a political nature. John Nolte at Bighollywood.com is listing the top 25 left wing movies of all time. It is an interesting list so far, he is reviewing one movie a day, and I think he is amazingly fair. So far, http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2010/12/17/top-25-left-wing-films-21-coming-home-1978/

25-Day after Tomorrow
24-The English Patient
23-Salvador
22-Sneakers
21-Coming Home

Also, Andrew Klavan at Bighollywood.com has an article about conservative values making a comeback in the movies. His "Klavan on the Culture" clips on youtube and over at Pajamasmedia.com are pretty funny. http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/255296/can-conservatives-win-back-arts-andrew-klavan

In my opinion, this is one of his funniest clips.

 

[Tez3]

Do you actually have views of your own to post because all we get is second/third hand reports from television, radio and the internet.
'top left wing films' good grief it will be the top ten left wing dog food brands next.

 

[billc]

Actually, I haven't found that dog food brands take a political position. The companies that make them are probably much like any corporation, apolitical, and willing to support the best deal makers in congress. If I have time I will try to find the politicial leanings of dog food brands. Did you also want cat food brands found as well?

I point to the people who speak about my views in a much more articulate way than I would ever be able to. It also lets people who might just accept the main stream view about who conservatives have access to real conservative thinkers, who can explain the conservative point of view. John Nolte is a writer who is very good at the cultural issues, especially where hollywood is concerned. Hollywood is one of the main exporters of American culture, and most of what it sends out to the world at this time is from the left. So I like to give people a chance to see the other side. If you don't like what I do, I believe in freedom of the individual, so please look elsewhere. I won't be offended. We can politely agree to disagree.

Have you read any of his reviews? They are quite good and inciteful as well as being fair.

 

[Tez3]

Actually, I haven't found that dog food brands take a political position. The companies that make them are probably much like any corporation, apolitical, and willing to support the best deal makers in congress. If I have time I will try to find the politicial leanings of dog food brands. Did you also want cat food brands found as well?

I point to the people who speak about my views in a much more articulate way than I would ever be able to. It also lets people who might just accept the main stream view about who conservatives have access to real conservative thinkers, who can explain the conservative point of view. John Nolte is a writer who is very good at the cultural issues, especially where hollywood is concerned. Hollywood is one of the main exporters of American culture, and most of what it sends out to the world at this time is from the left. So I like to give people a chance to see the other side. If you don't like what I do, I believe in freedom of the individual, so please look elsewhere. I won't be offended. We can politely agree to disagree.

Have you read any of his reviews? They are quite good and inciteful as well as being fair.

I don't even know who he is.

What I'd like is to know your views on things, however you feel you express yourself. Party political opinions I can read anywhere but I'd much prefer to read a personal view from you.

 

[billc]

Okay, what would you like to know. But, in fairness, you first. Ask a question and answer it yourself, and then I will give you my answer. I think it may not engender agreement, but it will make for clarity. (This idea clarity over agreement, is borrowed from Dennis Prager, a very wise radio host I listen to quite often.)

 

[granfire]

Okay, what would you like to know. But, in fairness, you first. Ask a question and answer it yourself, and then I will give you my answer. I think it may not engender agreement, but it will make for clarity. (This idea clarity over agreement, is borrowed from Dennis Prager, a very wise radio host I listen to quite often.)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, so much for originality! :lfao:

 

[billc]

20-fahrenheit 911

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2010/12/20/top-25-left-wing-films-20-fahrenheit-911-2004/

 

[billc]

19- Soylent Green

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2010/12/21/top-25-left-wing-films-19-soylent-green-1973/

Interesting insight into the way captialism makes life better.

 

[Tez3]

Okay, what would you like to know. But, in fairness, you first. Ask a question and answer it yourself, and then I will give you my answer. I think it may not engender agreement, but it will make for clarity. (This idea clarity over agreement, is borrowed from Dennis Prager, a very wise radio host I listen to quite often.)

Okay but a question on what? I only watch violent films so probably not films, what subject do you suggest?

Films aren't real they rarely show reality because who would want to watch that? Hollywood gets a lot of flak here because of the way it portrays America in the last war, it has a habit of twisting the truth, understandable enough I suppose but it doesn't help international understanding so when you constantly quote television programmes etc it's frustrating because we know it's a commercial view designed to sell advertising. When an American posts up views we non Americans like to hear the genuine thing not something copied from a programme. We might not agree, chances are we could but it's interesting to read. I want to read what real people say about American politics, life etc.

 

[granfire]

20-fahrenheit 911

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2010/12/20/top-25-left-wing-films-20-fahrenheit-911-2004/

19- Soylent Green

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2010/12/21/top-25-left-wing-films-19-soylent-green-1973/

Interesting insight into the way captialism makes life better.

You got the power of link, but do you have the strength of thought?

 

[elder999]

19- Soylent Green

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2010/12/21/top-25-left-wing-films-19-soylent-green-1973/

Interesting insight into the way captialism makes life better.

Kind of have to question these assertions:

Of course this is all a left-wing fantasy come true, a cautionary tale that validates the environmental, socialist, and abortion movements.

I can see how one could say that it validates the environmental movement, but I have to question how it validates abortion or socialism. In fact,I question that it's a "left-wing fantasy."

It's based on the nove, Make Room, Make Room!" by author Harry Harrison, who, while he does write from a fairly liberal point of view, says the inspiration from the story came from an Indian he spoke with in 1946, who brought up overpopulation as a problem.

This is especially maddening because the complete opposite is true. As we advance as a free society, life only gets better and it’s been proven once and for all that the cure for poverty is a free and capitalistic society.

Proven where, and by whom, exactly?

Furthermore, not only do people live better under a free market system than under oppressive governments, the environment is far cleaner.

People live under a free market system and under oppressive governments. The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

But our current environmental movement (which is nothing more than socialism in disguise) would lead us to the kind of totalitarian government that always leads to environmental degradation and a world that looks very much like “Soylent Green,” where the masses suffer under a very few elites who think they know best.

How, exactly, is our current environmental movement "nothing more than socialism in disguise?"

Was Richard Nixon a socialist? :lfao:

 

[Blade96]

How about the movie "Its a wonderful life?" Quite considered quite a left wing commie movie for obvious reasons when it first came out in 1946 when the cold war was just beginning.

 

[billc]

John Nolte points out that this movie could be about Barak and Michelles BFF's Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn( violent domestic terrorists of the weather underground, who by the way introduced the young couple, Barak and Michelle to each other).
18-Running on Empty
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/j...g-films-18-running-on-empty-1988/#more-429052

 

[granfire]

John Nolte points out that this movie could be about Barak and Michelles BFF's Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn( violent domestic terrorists of the weather underground, who by the way introduced the young couple, Barak and Michelle to each other).
18-Running on Empty
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/j...g-films-18-running-on-empty-1988/#more-429052

But what does billcihak think about it - if he has seen the movie?

What is your idea of a 'socialist' film?

 

[Empty Hands]

What is your idea of a 'socialist' film?

Anything not directed by Michael Bay and without huge explosions.

Or: any movie The Movement happens not to like for any reason. Justifiable, reasonable, or truthful explanations are strictly unnecessary.

 

[billc]

I'll take a shot. I saw this movie, "Running on Empty" on television, years ago. I was a lot younger and I have to say I felt sorry for the kid, and for the plight of the family. Now, I am not doing this as an attack, this is just an opinion coming up. As an adult and as I have become more conservative, I think that conservatism is a more difficult view to believe in.
For example, my thoughts on the death penalty would also apply to this movie family.
It is much easier to be against the death penalty than for it for these reasons. The criminal who has committed the murder that landed him on death row is still alive and in jail. People are very visual in relating to the world. They see an individual in jail, alone, among really bad people, isolated and facing death. When you see the profiles of these killers on the news it is easy to feel sympathy for their plight. I think as people, we put ourselves in their situation and we empathize with them. No one wants to be locked up, isolated, in danger from other inmates and so on. You can listen to the inmate showing regret and asking for forgiveness, and it reaches out to your human instinct to forgive when someone is sorry. You also have people telling you, forgive him because he/she is sorry, or killing them doesn't bring back the victim. Their lawyers argue for them, they seem like nice people now, and the thought of killing them is horrible.

This is where it is difficult to be a conservative. The victim is nowhere to be seen and cannot speak for themselves. Sure, you have relatives to describe them, and how much they miss them, but as I mentioned above, we are more visually oriented. We can actually see the prisoner and hear him say he is sorry. We will never be able to be at the actual scene of the crime. We will never be able to know what the victim experienced as well as we know what the still living prisoner is currently experiencing. The victim is almost non-existent. The human that committed the murder is not the human we are seeing now. The joy, or the emptyness of the killer as he committed his crimes is lost, especially over time. So it takes a real effort to stand up for the victim, to stand up for what you believe is justice. The person you are representing essentially no longer exists, so you need to work harder to follow through on your beliefs.

That is what this movie is like. This seems like a nice family. They seem to love their kids, and they are forced to live in hiding. It is easy to sympathize with them. It takes an act of conscious thought to remember their crime and how they are fleeing punishment. It is easy to like this family, it is harder to want to see them punished for what they did. Even at the end of the movie they are still running from taking responsibility for the person whose life they destroyed.

 

[granfire]

Anything not directed by Michael Bay and without huge explosions.

Or: any movie The Movement happens not to like for any reason. Justifiable, reasonable, or truthful explanations are strictly unnecessary.

Sooo.....

Double Impact = Good movie
You've got mail = Socialist crap

 

[elder999]

John Nolte points out that this movie could be about Barak and Michelles BFF's Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn( violent domestic terrorists of the weather underground, who by the way introduced the young couple, Barak and Michelle to each other).
18-Running on Empty
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/j...g-films-18-running-on-empty-1988/#more-429052

It could be based on any number of people from that period of time, from any number of "underground" domestic terroitst groups. Naomi Gylenhaal ,the writer, has never claimed to have based it on anyone, though one of the details does mirror a college bombing. Bill Ayers, though, never actually bombed anyone, and all charges against him were dropped while he was a fugitive-a fact conveniently forgotten by some.

Of course, that hardly makes him "innocent." :lfao:

Michelle Obama was assigned as Barack's mentor at Sidley&Austin, the law firm in Chicago where he was a summer intern from Harvard Law. There was no introduction from Bill Ayers or hs wife......

Back to the movie, neither of the parents is a completely sympathetic character, and both come across (deliberately) as quite narcissistic.

 

[billc]

17-The American President

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/j...ft-wing-films-17-the-american-president-1995/

 

[girlbug2]

"It's a Wonderful Life" is considered a commie, left wing movie? I don't see that at all.