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Kung fu in MMA Wins
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Who me?
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News flash. Even if you trained MMA there's no guarantee that you would be good at it. Just saying. Training MMA isn't a magic bullet.
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well this thread became a **** show. 
MA is 50% skill and 50% ability. The Gon rotation training can enhance your twisting ability which is very important in wrestling.
Flying Crane
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I think you’ve actually seen very little.
It's so funny that both you and I are Chinese. You try to give CMA a bad name. I try to protect the honor of CMA.
I'm sorry that your Hong Kong experience may give you a bad memory about CMA. My Taiwan experience give me a good memory about CMA.
- Long fist system helps me to develop foundation and toolbox.
- Praying mantis system helps me to develop speed generation.
- Baji system helps me to develop power generation.
- WC system helps me to develop centerline principle.
- Chinese wrestling system helps me to develop wrestling skill.
I may need to learn some BJJ. But I don't need to learn boxing, MT, TKD, Judo, western wrestling. Besides the BJJ ground skill, I have everything that I need from CMA.
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You don't have to know about Jow Ga because I'm telling you the training that I did and do in Jow Ga. I don't question you about Hong Kong because I have never lived there and have never trained martial arts there. The only thing I can tell you is how I train and how the kung fu schools that I know and been to train. It's from my own personal experience with some of these kung fu schools and their students that I can tell you, that the magical stuff that you saw in Hong Kong is not the norm in the U.S.
All of this is Kung Fu from various kung fu systems. You may even recognize some of the Wing Chun fighters. Does this look magical to you? You say win and no more excuses. Tell them them that.
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ha ha ha.. it's always a show. We just can't blame Jobo for this onewell this thread became a **** show.
Not you,
I was replying you asking whether learning side kick to the knee. I meant the goal is learn how to win. I did not specify what technique, I don't know enough to say. BUT experts should learn what technique create good result and they should learn whatever that works to win a fight.
It is very obvious that MA is a constantly evolving art. Someone came out with a technique that win the fight, then people watch the video, analyzing the technique, find a way to defend it. Then some other people will work to find a technique to defeat the first one, then second and on and on.
If you watch UFC, the fighting style change every few years. What Gracie did those days would not survive as seen he got his butt handed to him by Matt Huges long time ago already. Then Huges got his butt kicked within months. Nobody stay on top in UFC, people rise and they get defeated, new people rise and gets knocked down. Now, the take down defense is so good you don't see grappling on the ground as often anymore. But people better learn take down defense and know grappling just in case.
It's constantly evolve, serious fighter really have to be like going to school and constantly learning.
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Where’d he go?
The video looks Muy Thai in the stand up and judo on take down!!! Actually I am quite familiar. Only some take down towards the end looks different like picking the person up and slamming to the ground. Too bad the video doesn't show what happen after going to the ground because that's very important part of the MMA fight, how to submit the person.
This is much better than what I saw in kung fu. The video is very MMA to me, using Muy Thai with take down. It would be nice to let it play out after they are on the ground.
If they have good ground game and if I were to look for a school, it will be in my consideration. This is very much MMA to me already.
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I did not finish watching, you know this is fake? It's not even well practice, it's very slow.
This, is done so much better even though it's fake:
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This is not an excuse. Just the reality because it's not as straight forward.
People take martial arts for many different reason so when you say Experts, who are you referring to?
If the Kung Fu teacher is an expert in kung fu forms, then I don't automatically expect him to be an expert in fighting. Just because he trains and studies kung fu doesn't mean that he knows it. It also doesn't mean that he techniques aren't valid. It just means that this specific teacher doesn't know how to use them because his expertise is in forms. So for me. I don't expect someone to know which techniques create the best result or how to win the fight. If I learn from them, then I will not be learning how to fight or use techniques from them. If they are really good with making martial arts forms look good, then my best route may be to use those martial arts to be an action actor or stunt double. Bruce Lee is a good example of how martial arts makes a movie fighting scenes more exciting. No real fighting experience is needed.
Then you have experts who know how to use martial arts techniques. These guys are the ones you want to learn from if you want to learn how to fight using martial arts techniques.
You also have martial arts experts who only care about fitness. Billy Blanks is a good example of that. He used to compete, but no he just does it for fitness.
You may look at this guy and call him a fake martial arts person. But he has applicable skills. He just chooses to focus on fitness. Which probably made him richer than many UFC fighters. Google says his net worth is $20 million.
If a martial arts expert claims to be able to fight using his technique, then he should be knowledgeable in that area. If a martial arts expert doesn't claim to be able to fight using the techniques, then that's ok too. Because he's being honest about his knowledge and what his knowledge consists of.
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To be honest when I watch UFC. I start to see a lot of things I've seen in traditional martial arts. The more UFC evolves the more of that I see.
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I don't know. He was a pain in the butt sometimes, but I hope he's ok, Considering the pandemic and Job challenges that exist. He's been quiet for a while now, so hopefully things are going good and he just doesn't have time to be online like before.
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Those aren't the rules of the sport. It's not MMA. Some of those people didn't need to be submitted. They got KOd on their feet.
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What you’re seeing is the purposeful reduction of ground fighting in order to make the fights more “entertaining”. Dana White especially has a distaste for it, which is why you’re seeing UFC matches looking more and more like kickboxing fights.
Thankfully other MMA outlets are more friendly to grappling.
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These are all kung fu people. Kung fu and muay thai have similar strikes. You may be seeing that.
