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There might be some limit without permission.
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Tulisan said:I think you can, as long as you credit the source.
Referencial use is acceptable. Just saying "Hey I saw this on X and wonder what you think of it" for discussion isn't a problem.Palusut said:There might be some limit without permission.
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Cebu West said:I just recently purchased a pinuti bolo from Kris Cutlery in California. It looks very similar to the one in the first photo of the soldier.
Here is the photo and the write up from their web site.
http://www.kriscutlery.com/philippine/index_pinuti.html
By the way, this is an awesome weapon.
SAL
Cebu West said:One glaring difference between Modern Arnis and Balintawak is the grabbing and trapping done in MA and not in Balintawak. I was told that they were seldom used in the PI and Professor took advantage of this to defeat many opponents. I don't remember who said this to me.
I also remember the Professor showing Balintawak moves at seminars. He would start by demonstrating a Modern Arnis technique and by the time he was done he would say, "But you can also do this, but we are not doing that now." I always tried to watch for that stuff. That was the stuff not meant for the seminar, but it probably was where the Modern Arnis technique originated. It was nasty, quick and right to the point. A game ender. Not good for the seminar crowd but great stuff for those who picked up on them.
SAL
Bobby Taboada's grouped version has some grabbing/trapping in the system. There is a whole series of trap/grab give and takes based on 4 count Block Check Counter. Also, in the weapon semi advance applications there is some grabbing and pulling as timing disruption and off balancing techniques. As Rich as mentioned there are some counter grabbing techniques as well.Rich Parsons said:Sal et al,
I agree from the Lineage of Balintawak I have that there is no grabbing and that the techniques taught are to counter grabs. Where as Modern Arnis has grabbing. Although there are family trees of Balintawak that have put in Grabbing, so some would disagree with you, on the differences. Knowing you might have heard it from me or Tim, therefore the comments about Balintawak not grabbing.
loki09789 said:Bobby Taboada's grouped version has some grabbing/trapping in the system. There is a whole series of trap/grab give and takes based on 4 count Block Check Counter. Also, in the weapon semi advance applications there is some grabbing and pulling as timing disruption and off balancing techniques. As Rich as mentioned there are some counter grabbing techniques as well.
loki09789 said:By no means are these comprehensive 'grappling' portions of the grouped version of Balitawak that Bobby puts forth but they are effective binding motions that would limit/eliminate the stick long enought to open gaps in play.
loki09789 said:Interestingly enough, in the grouping sets that Bobby uses there are many opportunities for the feeder/senior student/instructor to work on empty hand on stick binding/grabbing and rhythmn breakers. Both sides get something from the drills.
loki09789 said:Others have put forth the notion that Tapi/Tapi was a re-introduction of Cuentada that RP used in Balitawak training. But, there seems to be a semi structured/'play' game in most FMA stick systems. My interest gets peaked when I notice the similarities to Euro training structures that Arnis/Escrima type arts have. Somewhere I remember reading that even the origins of Doce Pares founders had an imprisoned french fencer as an influence...or was that Pilates. Seriously though there was mention of a senior Seveerda serving a prison sentence with a Frenchman who may have shown him some fencing.
loki09789 said:I imagine there have been multiple euro/FMA exchanges throughout history though. Considering the fall of interest in FMA and the upsurge of Euro/Japanese/Chinese arts pre=Modern Arnis, I imagine the role models of financial and cultural success were those who adopted euro culture.
1. I found the point of contention in the ED thread to be one surrounding the question as to whether the origins of Modern Arnis are from Balintawak, Karate, or from Remy's uncles and grandfathers as is apparently the assertion in Bram Frank's DVD. It seems likely to me that it may be all three as much as any single source. 2. I do have to say that there is no such thing as a "jungle bolo" in my experience. A bolo is all purpose and is at home cutting jungle brush just as much as it is at getting buko juice or getting the chicken ready for dinner or taking care of the occasional home invasion robber. A bolo is a bolo is a bolo.
The simplest transliteration would be "White Chieftain."Dan Anderson said:Also, what does "Datu Puti" mean?
Yours,
Dan Anderson
Hi Paul,loki09789 said:Others have put forth the notion that Tapi/Tapi was a re-introduction of Cuentada that RP used in Balitawak training.
I think the inter/intra definitions are the root of the problem, not the actions/drills themselves.Tulisan said:Corridas: This is the free form; generally where all Manongs Teds students learn the majority of the techniques, and the solutions to problems. The meat and potatoes, if you will, however, the Corridas is the free form or free sparring. Quote Manong, "You don't KNOW what I am going to do!"
Cuentadas: You are free sparring, but it is much more then that. You are leading your opponent through the movements so you can strike a particular spot, or do a particular technique. This demonstrates the ultimate control over the encounter.
This is Manong Teds/Anciongs definition, anyways.
Just thought I'd clear that up.
PAUL
loki09789 said:The simplest transliteration would be "White Chieftain."
Rich,
As far as the Bk, authentic/true issue. Not interested. Bobby's stuff is good to go, recognzied and respected by Bk seniors/peers and linked directly to GGM Bacon, partially by direct instruction with GM Bobby and partially by instruction under a few of GGM Bacon's GM's/Senior students.
It is a funny story, but GM Bobby tells the story of how he was asked to do a YMCA demo with his instructor and during the demo, his instructor could not get through his defense and counter and had to resort to binding/stick grabbing to create the gap. So, I would say that the stick binding stuff is actually part of the original Bk stuff, just taught differently through the grouped/ungrouped approaches.
Rich Parsons said:There are clips in Balintawak to break a timing, yes. Yet this is momentary and not a grab. I know subtle difference that many will not see nor care about. QUOTE]
Yes, but this is one amigo who cares about it. This one subtlety has made a major impact on my Modern Arnis. I seldom grab a cane anymore. Or at least I grab a lot less.
Yours,
Dan Anderson
PS - Tim, no word from you yet.
Dan Anderson said:PS - Tim, no word from you yet.
Okay, I think the confusion of who authored what portion of the copy was because Tim never really identified or explained who was saying what. Since he was the author of the thread topic, I was thinking he was the author of the bolded section without any other guidance to work from. Is Tim the author of any of the text copy?bart said:He's responding to both Dan and Deke and then one other person in the thread now that I look at it again. David doesn't really cite the person but just includes their words and writes his response below.