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stone_dragone said:It would seem that a common thread among the responses of what a Grandmaster is and how one should present themselves agree's with Plato's idea of the perfect political/military leader...highly accomplished, well qualified and, most importantly, NO AMBITION to hold the position or title. Not to say that they don't seek to improve themselves, only that they aren't concerned with the trappings of their position and focus on the responsibilities of that position...
Someone I train with created his own martial art, claiming it combines techniques from 15-20 different martial arts (depending on what day you ask him). He has now promoted himself to 4th and the rank of "master". The highest rank that he holds that I know that he has tested for is 2nd dan in TKD (and that was practically given to him as a courtesy because he was leaving for Iraq and my instructor thought he wouldn't be back to our school after his tour). He also claims a former instructor told him over the phone that he was "probably a 3rd dan in Jui Te".
This fellow is all about the titles and appearance. When a room full of black belts were practicing yellow belt techniques at a seminar (quite happily) this guy asked the grandmaster (over 57 years of experience) to show him some of the black belt techniques...things he could use in his line of work because he is in personal security (meaning he worked security for some concerts and at some clubs for a few months).
The grandmaster (thankfully) politely yet firmly refused his request.
"Grandmaster" should be a title given by consensus I believe. And "master" should be a title not given to one's self...and that "master" should be able to back up his claims to the title...not prove himself by throwing little kids around the mat and saying, "I'll give you $50 right now if you can take me down".
Rant off.
The term we use down under is wanker!
Have a great day.
--Dave
If you want to see a website dedicated to these knuckle heads, try this one http://www.kyusho.com/
I am really disappointed the "Intimacy Enhancement" link doesn`t lead anywhere. Really wanted to see what they had cooked up for that section.
First and foremost, we are students, always and forever.
Some students gain sufficient expertise and experience to become instructors.
Some instructors gain sufficient expertise and experience to become masters of their art. They are the teachers of the teachers, so to speak.
And a few masters gain sufficient expertise and experience to become teachers of the masters. Those are the Grand Masters.
In theory, at least. :yoda:
You are a Grandmaster when:
A. That title is conferred upon you by a legitimate organization.
B. You are recognized as such by your peers.
A. That title is conferred upon you by a legitimate organization.
B. You are recognized as such by your peers.
Someone I train with created his own martial art, claiming it combines techniques from 15-20 different martial arts (depending on what day you ask him). He has now promoted himself to 4th and the rank of "master". The highest rank that he holds that I know that he has tested for is 2nd dan in TKD (and that was practically given to him as a courtesy because he was leaving for Iraq and my instructor thought he wouldn't be back to our school after his tour). He also claims a former instructor told him over the phone that he was "probably a 3rd dan in Jui Te".
This fellow is all about the titles and appearance. When a room full of black belts were practicing yellow belt techniques at a seminar (quite happily) this guy asked the grandmaster (over 57 years of experience) to show him some of the black belt techniques...things he could use in his line of work because he is in personal security (meaning he worked security for some concerts and at some clubs for a few months).
The grandmaster (thankfully) politely yet firmly refused his request.
"Grandmaster" should be a title given by consensus I believe. And "master" should be a title not given to one's self...and that "master" should be able to back up his claims to the title...not prove himself by throwing little kids around the mat and saying, "I'll give you $50 right now if you can take me down".
Rant off.
Be disappointed no more sir, they now have material available at that link. Don't think I've ever seen martial arts marketed this way, maybe I live under a rock?I am really disappointed the "Intimacy Enhancement" link doesn`t lead anywhere. Really wanted to see what they had cooked up for that section.
I have to add my KJN KI Whang Kim!!!
KJN Kim was promoted to 9th dan by the KTA back in 71 and it wasnt something that he was seeking to achieve.
The same goes for Grandmaster Albert Cheeks. Besides being Ki Whang Kim's senior black belt Cheeks was one of the top fighters and forms competitors from Kim's dojo back in the 70's. When I came home I looked GM Cheeks to continue my training and for years it was just me and GM Cheeks because he wasnt interested in teaching but after being repeatedly asked by other senior black belts from Ki Whang Kim's dojo and just other ppl that knew him, he decided to get back into it. Again, he wasnt looking to be a grandmaster.
It seems like now a days every one wants to be a grandmaster. **** not everyone gets to be a 4 star general. Some ppl retire at colonel or Lt colonel or 2 star general.