Christianity, the religion of Death, Rape, Slavery and Murder in it's own words.

[granfire]

hmm, gee, i am confused now, why, if BOTH books are full of evil, are not BOTH groups out doing horrible things? why is it only ONE group doing that?

because the other group had a 1000 year head start....
and nope, only resting, not giving up the evil ways...just keep little place called 'Yugoslavia' in mind....the loving Christian Serbs raping the violent Muslim women, after killing every male in the village....

I am sure the tide will tun again some time and the Christians will blow **** up again....

 

[granfire]

:cheers::highfive:artyon:artyon:

This was never about attacking Christianity.
It's not about gays, Islam, attacking TF, any of that.
Steve got it.



Though I may convert and become a Pastafarian. Sounds yummy.

I think most of us got it....with a couple notable exceptions, of course.....

Pass the spaghetti monster, I am hungry.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Exactly. And its an important distinction when it comes to interpreting the application of OT "law" that you are cherry picking. Especially in context of faiths who want to take the literal word of the book (all those head lopping Islamic gvts for example) over the deeper message.

Of course I'm cherry picking. Never said I wasn't. That was kinda my whole point.

"All those head lopping Islamic gvmts"

Which ones? All the 'head lopping' I've seen reported has been done by 2 groups.
Islamic Extremists who are condemned by most Islamic governments
and
Mexican Drug Cartels (who are predominantly Catholic in faith btw)



Oh yeah.....Uh John? Hey John!!!
Mexican Drug Cartels (who are predominantly Catholic in faith btw)
You knew that right?

oh ****....here it comes......

"bob. those dont count. they aren't doing it because their religion says so. and even if they were it doesnt matter because islam is bad"


The Charge: Christianity demands the death of unbelievers.
Charge: Christianity encourages Murder
Charge: Christianity encourages Rape of Women.
Charge: Christianity Supports Slavery

Guilty. On all Counts.

As Twin Fist said, not doing this just makes most Christians bad Christians.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Something else to ponder, for the Christians reading.

How did this thread make you feel? Did it piss you off? Anger you? Are you unhappy with me for posting it?
Why?
It's the truth, it's in your book, and if you are a real Christian, you should be aware of this stuff. Some of it came up when I was going to church, and I was an Episcopalian. None of this is new.

Did it make you feel uncomfortable? Unwelcome? Unwanted?

I wonder how all the bad muslim and bad jew threads make those people feel?
Don't think we don't have many members who do follow those faiths. I know a few of both.
I also know that given the percentages of world population, more are here.
I also know we have followers of other faiths and philosophies.
I'd like them all to feel welcome here. Part of why I 'defend' Islam when others attack it.
And why I'll defend Christianity, even from my own attacks.

 

[CanuckMA]

And let's not forget that the overwhelming majority of terrorist acts done in the name of Islam are in fact political in nature.

 

[Tez3]

Did Christ tell the priests to stone the adulteress Bob? That was an OT law. I don't think you understand what Christs message was in relation to the OT.

Bob is an adulteress?

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Bob is an adulteress?

I can't be, my wife would kill me.

 

[Steve]

Bob is an adulteress?

Awesome. Now he can pursue a career in politics!

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Awesome. Now he can pursue a career in politics!

But, I'm not a Democrat. Or Republican.

 

[MaxiMe]

Something else to ponder, for the Christians reading.

How did this thread make you feel? Did it piss you off? Anger you? Are you unhappy with me for posting it?
Why?

Nope,
Discussion is what makes people THINK.
And as Jenna said faith is a personal thing.

And you missed one in your cherry picking.
Old : Exodus 20:13
Thou shalt not kill.

New : Matthew 5:21
Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment

Now does any one follow that?

Pass the monster REd pepper flakes please

 

[MaxiMe]

But, I'm not a Democrat. Or Republican.

His Campaign slogan...
Could be a winner these days

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Those 2 seem to contradict the hell (no pun intended) out of the rest.

 

[Twin Fist]

i dont think you did. What i think you did was ignore the new covenent. you made a choice, and it is yours to answer for.

but, as always, you live in your own reality, so whatever.

but, food for thought here...

"Lets discuss the Christians who do follow the guidelines.
The good christians who stoned and burned the gay kid for being gay.
The good christians who murder abortion doctors.
The good christians who locked their child in a drawer.
The good christians who went to jail for sexual abuse of children
Etc.

with the christians who do bad ****, it is always one or two crazy people

with OTHER religions, they have world wide terror networks, and they kill people willy nilly in mubers that put the christians to shame, so, if, as you suggest, the christians are JUST AS BAD (which is clearly ********, but lets pretend) then they are either not as highly motivated or they are lazy as ****.......

i still know who i would rather live near....

 

[MaxiMe]

Those 2 seem to contradict the hell (no pun intended) out of the rest.

No contradiction, just food for thought ( or fule for the fire :uhyeah: )

 

[Tez3]

Nope,
Discussion is what makes people THINK.
And as Jenna said faith is a personal thing.

And you missed one in your cherry picking.
Old : Exodus 20:13
Thou shalt not kill.

New : Matthew 5:21
Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment

Now does any one follow that?

Pass the monster REd pepper flakes please

I'm afraid that's not correct, it actually says "Thou shalt not murder" there is quite a difference in the wording, especially is you are a soldier for example defending your country etc.

 

[aedrasteia]

The lesson is this: any numpty can do this.

thanks extended to Jenna and Steve. I am _so_ stealing this:
The lesson is: any numpty can do this.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

i dont think you did. What i think you did was ignore the new covenent. you made a choice, and it is yours to answer for.

but, as always, you live in your own reality, so whatever.

But John, I like living in Egypt near de Nile.
I didn't ignore it, I cited it repeatedly.
*sigh* John, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John (different John, not you) are the alleged authors of the 4 Gospels included in the New Testament.
I cited them a number of times.
Maybe you should goto church and get a refresher?

but, food for thought here...

"Lets discuss the Christians who do follow the guidelines.
The good christians who stoned and burned the gay kid for being gay.
The good christians who murder abortion doctors.
The good christians who locked their child in a drawer.
The good christians who went to jail for sexual abuse of children
Etc.

with the christians who do bad ****, it is always one or two crazy people

with OTHER religions, they have world wide terror networks, and they kill people willy nilly in mubers that put the christians to shame, so, if, as you suggest, the christians are JUST AS BAD (which is clearly ********, but lets pretend) then they are either not as highly motivated or they are lazy as ****.......

i still know who i would rather live near....

And if you had grown up in a 3rd world country, you'd feel quite differently.

Side bar, moving to Texas, I'm thinking about starting a food business...gonna call it Yankee Noodle Do!

(Hey, it fits the side discussion on pasta) :rofl:

 

[MaxiMe]

I'm afraid that's not correct, it actually says "Thou shalt not murder" there is quite a difference in the wording, especially is you are a soldier for example defending your country etc.

Depends on what version you are reading what word is used.
New International = You shall not murder
21st cent King James = Thou shalt not kill

 

[Bob Hubbard]

I'm afraid that's not correct, it actually says "Thou shalt not murder" there is quite a difference in the wording, especially is you are a soldier for example defending your country etc.

Depends on which translation you read, and which edition. It varies.

The consensus is that you are correct though.

 

[MaxiMe]

Side bar, moving to Texas, I'm thinking about starting a food business...gonna call it Yankee Noodle Do!

(Hey, it fits the side discussion on pasta) :rofl:

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