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- #561
So do you think Phelps would make a good swimming coach? If you were a competitive swimmer would you want him as a coach?
Calling Somebody's Dojo A McDojo Is Offensive
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Wing Woo Gar
Senior Master
It’s not his 1 inch punch, it is ubiquitous in CMA. He is famous for his demonstration of it.
There is no way to know since, so far as I know, he doesn't coach. He could be the Worst Coach Ever.
The number of world class athletes who go on to become successful coaches in their sport later in life is pretty tiny.
The best coaches are not necessarily (or even usually) the best athletes.
Yes, if their a famous coach/teacher. Very different than a famous fighter though.
Still the same response. Just because one school has a low skill requirement for black belt and another has a higher skill requirement, that's not an indication of which school offers better instruction. Just a difference in what black belt means to the instructors.
One of the fellows I've worked with for years is an incredibly gifts cardiothoracic surgeon. Absolutely brilliant. I'd let him cut on me in a heartbeat (see what I did there?).
Residents hate him. Worst teacher ever.
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Well in an earlier post you talked about the possibility of making students wait 10 years to get black belts and providing bad instruction at your dojo. So in that hypothetical dojo, exactly what are your standards for giving students black belts? Is it simply a time requirement? To get a black belt would all a student have to do is be a student for 10 years? Does a student have to be at your dojo for 10 years and immediately upon being there for 10 years they're granted promotion to the rank of black belt but not a moment before? If that's the case then I would agree, you are providing very poor instruction and you've got very poor standards.
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- #568
Alright, then just translate "coach/teacher" to "sensei."
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- #569
You've made your point so let me ask you this, would you want Michael Phelps's coach as your coach if you were a competitive swimmer?
Yes, I am. All of those words are the same. coach/teacher is the same as sensei, and all should be able to teach. Famous fighter is different.
That depends, am I allowed anyone. If so, no. I'd want his coach.
I didn't mean to indicate 10 years vs 2 years as set time requirements-I don't know anywhere where time is the only goal. My point is that one school may take a lot longer to develop the skill to become a black belt in that style/school then another one, and that's not an indication of the quality of either.
Possibly my greatest asset as a coach is that I am naturally extremely untalented in the martial arts. Like, bottom 1% of the bell curve.
What that means is that just about every possible mistake or difficulty a student may have in learning a technique or concept - I've already been through it and have explored quite a lot of fixes that don't work before finding ones that do. This gives me a big head start in spotting what my students are having problems with and steering them in the right direction to fix it. Sometimes people who are naturally gifted just picked up important subtleties of movement instinctively and don't know how to articulate what a student who doesn't have that natural facility needs to hear.
There are also people who are both great practitioners and great coaches. It's always a treat to learn from those individuals.
Steve
Mostly Harmless
To be honest, probably not. I’d want the person who coached Phelps.
Steve
Mostly Harmless
Exactly. If I’d read a couple more posts I could have just agreed with you.
Yep. That was several posts after the one you quoted - thanks for pointing me to it!
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- #577
In this hypothetical situation, yes.
That's exactly what I said in post $569, if you go back and check you will see that I said, "would you want Michael Phelps's coach as your coach if you were a competitive swimmer?
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- #578
Well when you talk about one school where it takes a lot longer than in another school to develop the skill to become a black belt its important to know why it takes much longer in one school to develop said level of skill than in another school. For instance, maybe the reason why it takes much longer to develop the skill to become a black belt in one school than it does in another is because in the school where it does take much longer, they've got much higher skill requirements for black belt then the other school, and so forth.
Wow, not sure how I misread that. Then yes, I would want his coach at my coach.
Yes. That's exactly what my point is. You said it's a sign of the quality of instruction. I was saying no, the bar for black belt may just be different.
