@KPM So, you're just gonna ignore the whole list of common techniques I posted? Haha! These are all found within Songshan systems, like Hongquan. And in many other single systems from the Songshan area in Henan Province.
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Geez! I ignored nothing. So I will repeat myself....again, since you seem to have missed it. Which ONE northern system shares the same number of techniques that White Crane and Wing Chun have in common? T..O..T...A...L P...A...C...K....A...G...E Get it yet?