It had its day early on, but in the history of the UFC, 64% more fights have been decided by KO than submission. And not all the submissions have been by BJJ guys. There are wrestlers getting them too. So in the long run, BJJ has proven to be important, but not the dominant, art.
OK. I can agree about 100% with what you said in the quote above. All that pretty much applies to me too.
And that is exactly what I learned when I studied ground fighting.
OK. I can agree about 100% with what you said in the quote above. All that pretty much applies to me too.
As for responding to irritating remarks with irritation... what can I say? We're all human, right? But do yourself a favor and try not to take the bait!
You don't know what I learned or what my experience is. You weren't there. I have over 25 years studying the arts, including Judo, Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, Karate', Krav Maga and yes, a little BJJ. I know I don't know it all, I doubt anyone does, but I know what I learned and I know I can use it.
OK. I can agree about 100% with what you said in the quote above. All that pretty much applies to me too.
As for responding to irritating remarks with irritation... what can I say? We're all human, right? But do yourself a favor and try not to take the bait!
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Then you don't have a lot of experience or are looking in the wrong place. I tell folks all the time that they're not as trained or as ready as they think they are, particularly people in the firearms-for-self-defense community or women who want to/have taken a "Women's Self Defense Class." I used to try to be nice about it but that never worked. Now I'm a little bit more blunt. I usually try not to be deliberately insulting but I don't try to sugar coat it any more.
I assume here that you think I'm criticizing you for studying "the wrong martial art." If so, that's wrong. I'm criticizing you for thinking that the "ground training [you have] had is about breaking contact and getting up" will be effective at doing so. The only people I've ever seen who actually were able to make that plan work were people who put significant study into ground-grappling and not those who thought that it would be sufficient to merely train how to "break contact and get back up." For some reason the latter almost always dramatically underestimate how easy it is for even an untrained goober to cabbage on to them, drag them to the floor, and keep them there, while simultaneously over-estimating their own ability to prevent and then undo that process.
Then it's not a big enough deal to mention, right?
It is a friendly site for the most part. But jut like most all MA's it can get competitive at times. Disagreements happen and are frequently discussed to a resolution or at least consensus; sometimes with relish.
As a friend of mine once said, "A herd of martial artists gets together and a fight breaks out; quelle surprise."
BJJ is not the center of the martial arts universe. Not even the ground fighting universe. Ask Kazushi Sakuraba or Kabib Nurmagomedov. BJJ guys clearly don't know everything about grappling. Don't get me wrong, it is a great martial art. But practitioners tend to think it is the be all and end all. It is not. So you knowing BJJ does not tell the whole story. BJJ doesn't allow the stuff I'm talking about. So how would you know?
Apparently one has to drink the Kool-aide also.
Ah, Sakuraba and Khabib... a couple of great BJJ practitioners, IMO.
Never said anything like that. Now you are just making things up.
Sakuraba was awarded an honorary black belt in BJJ, which he admits, he never learned how to tie. Kabib is a black belt in Judo and a Master in Sambo. He is a white belt in BJJ. An art doesn't get to claim someone just because they have walked in one of their schools. They are both wrestlers, plain and simple.
