Why do people think grappling arts always beat striking arts?

[Kung Fu Wang]

I had probably had to throw hime into the ground on his head, as it was the simplest method.

To throw someone off the stage can be worse than a punch to the head.

 

[Fungus]

To throw someone off the stage can be worse than a punch to the head.

Yes, absolutely. Landing on your head or falling the wrong way could be devastating, especiall outdoors without tatami. So I rather get down on my own, than beeing throwed into the ground.

But my point of the example is that as as kid, this was quite natural. It was an improvised throw no fancy advanced technique, just a like an improvised haymaker. For me at leat "wrestling" perhaps followed by trying to pull your opponents head off given that you get sufficiently upset, feels like more "innate fighting" than striking or boxing. I am more inclined to think that those that aren't trained, and then throw a forceful random strike are likely to hurt their wrists.

 

[isshinryuronin]

They couldn’t get anyone to fight in UFC 1. They asked everyone. They asked Wallace, Benny Urquidez etc

I consider Benny the original MMA fighter, although there was really no such thing during his prime. He could strike, kick and wrestle. For UFC 1, he was about 41, had many battles and his share of punishment - Wallace was 45 and even his legs slowed down. Royce Gracie was in his prime. They should not be faulted if they refused such a match, though I'm sure you didn't intend to do so. IMO, if Benny was the same age as Royce, Benny would be a TKO winner.

 

[Buka]

I consider Benny the original MMA fighter, although there was really no such thing during his prime. He could strike, kick and wrestle. For UFC 1, he was about 41, had many battles and his share of punishment - Wallace was 45 and even his legs slowed down. Royce Gracie was in his prime. They should not be faulted if they refused such a match, though I'm sure you didn't intend to do so. IMO, if Benny was the same age as Royce, Benny would be a TKO winner.

Maybe.

 

[Gyakuto]

Hmm not sure if I share that view. Not to say grappling is easy, but I'd say at least if you consider some rudimentary wrestling and takedowns, its quite natural. When you see kids fight, I'd say a mix of "wrestling" and haymakers is what you often see, may not elegant throws or locks but the "grappling or wrestling correspondence" to the amateur random haymaker.

I recall as as kid, when I was provoced ny a bully who was officially a karate practictioner, but he was not as strong as me... and i didnt want to fight. But as he kicked and jumped at me, I grabbed hime off the ground and threw him into some nearby thornbush. It didn't knock him him out but trashed his jacket and scared him off. I didn't eve attempt punch, had it escalated I had probably had to throw hime into the ground on his head, as it was the simplest method.

Well it’s clear you are a grappler, you should be practising grappling and give up your Kyokushin grade in disgrace…like that man in the TV series ‘Branded’ who has his sword snapped in half by his commanding officer

 

[Gyakuto]

 

[Buka]

Sorry to stray off topic but I was a big Chuck Conners fan. Two sport pro athlete - Brooklyn Dodgers in baseball, Boston Celtics in basketball. Then an acting career.

Rock star.