Which Animal Could You Beat in a Fight?

[Prince_Alarming]

You know....servicing...

 

[Gyakuto]

You know....servicing...

Hmmm, I think I do

 

[Prince_Alarming]

Let's just say that when we're moving animals around you can spend a long time waiting for the cows to come

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

I mean, you could put it like that...

 

[HighKick]

Well.... I did wrestle a cow once but only because she was very poorly and dehydrated, wouldn't drink, and we had to get her to drink some water or she would get more sick. I held her steady and the landowner poured warm water down her.

I have wrestled a lot of cattle, but never tubed one that wasn't in a head catch. Sounds really sketchy.
My analogy for cattle is they can truly kill you while swatting a fly. Their head is Big, and the neck is incredibly strong, not to mention the rest of the body.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

I have wrestled a lot of cattle, but never tubed one that wasn't in a head catch. Sounds really sketchy.
My analogy for cattle is they can truly kill you while swatting a fly. Their head is Big, and the neck is incredibly strong, not to mention the rest of the body.

Nose tongs tied to a rope behind the rear leg. They pull the leg, it pulls the tongs. Usually only did that on a down cow.

 

[HighKick]

Nose tongs tied to a rope behind the rear leg. They pull the leg, it pulls the tongs. Usually only did that on a down cow.

Out west where cattle still forage open acreages=, two cowboys on horseback will rope a back leg and the neck to 'stretch' a cow for branding.
I suppose you could get a nose lead on a tame(ish), freestanding cow and even get the rear leg roped, but have you ever had to hold a cow's leg with a rope? You better have something to wrap the rope around. Again, not to mention how strong the neck is. They will still fight the nose lead. It is not like putting a twitch on a horse's nose and calming them down.

 

[Prince_Alarming]

I have wrestled a lot of cattle, but never tubed one that wasn't in a head catch. Sounds really sketchy.
My analogy for cattle is they can truly kill you while swatting a fly. Their head is Big, and the neck is incredibly strong, not to mention the rest of the body.

It's not something I would make a habit of for that reason, but the landowner didn't have a crush. Quite why, I don't know...

 

[HighKick]

It's not something I would make a habit of for that reason, but the landowner didn't have a crush. Quite why, I don't know...

It is becoming a problem here as well. We have an inordinate amount of people who 'move to the country' buy an acre of land and think they should have 3-4 head of cattle with Zero working equipment or even a pen. To me, it is beyond stupid, irresponsible, and often times a bit inhumane. I have helped out a few times, but I also tell them I will notify animal control, so the calls have reduced a bit.

 

[Prince_Alarming]

It is becoming a problem here as well. We have an inordinate amount of people who 'move to the country' buy an acre of land and think they should have 3-4 head of cattle with Zero working equipment or even a pen. To me, it is beyond stupid, irresponsible, and often times a bit inhumane. I have helped out a few times, but I also tell them I will notify animal control, so the calls have reduced a bit.

Don't get me started, I knew a guy who was convinced he could keep cattle as part of a 'permaculture'.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Out west where cattle still forage open acreages=, two cowboys on horseback will rope a back leg and the neck to 'stretch' a cow for branding.
I suppose you could get a nose lead on a tame(ish), freestanding cow and even get the rear leg roped, but have you ever had to hold a cow's leg with a rope? You better have something to wrap the rope around. Again, not to mention how strong the neck is. They will still fight the nose lead. It is not like putting a twitch on a horse's nose and calming them down.

Done it both ways, I’m no cowboy, but I had 65 head of Bison and angus and beefalo crosses until I sold my folks ranch in southern coastal Oregon about 7 years ago. The nose tongs I only really used on a downed cow. I had an Appaloosa mare when I was a kid that was my cutting horse. She worked good with the dogs and liked to play soccer ball. The problem with Bison is they don’t fit in the squeeze chute very well and the head catch doesn’t stop the twisting. Ropes, pickups, 4 wheelers, and horses. We used them all. I love all that but I’ve bucked my last bale of hay.

 

[HighKick]

Done it both ways, I’m no cowboy, but I had 65 head of Bison and angus and beefalo crosses until I sold my folks ranch in southern coastal Oregon about 7 years ago. The nose tongs I only really used on a downed cow. I had an Appaloosa mare when I was a kid that was my cutting horse. She worked good with the dogs and liked to play soccer ball. The problem with Bison is they don’t fit in the squeeze chute very well and the head catch doesn’t stop the twisting. Ropes, pickups, 4 wheelers, and horses. We used them all. I love all that but I’ve bucked my last bale of hay.

Love this post.
I have seen buffalo confinement chutes, but they were big hydraulic systems that squeezed the whole body and had several side entry panels. There are a couple of buffalo farms around here, one quite large by our standards but they are few and far between.
Beeffalo was a big thing here for a while back in the '90's but don't hear much about them anymore.
Do cattle and buffalo require the same treatment health plans (IBR, BVD, BRS,etc...), worming, black leg, etc...?

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Love this post.
I have seen buffalo confinement chutes, but they were big hydraulic systems that squeezed the whole body and had several side entry panels. There are a couple of buffalo farms around here, one quite large by our standards but they are few and far between.
Beeffalo was a big thing here for a while back in the '90's but don't hear much about them anymore.
Do cattle and buffalo require the same treatment health plans (IBR, BVD, BRS,etc...), worming, black leg, etc...?

My dad was what you might call a gentleman farmer, meaning more hobby than vocation. He made some decisions that weren’t necessarily the best practice or properly prepared. Same vaccine protocol at that time. The bison tend to be pretty mellow for the first few years but the bull was unmanageable at 5 years. The beefalo were the result of natural breeding of our angus cows by the bison bull. The beefalo finish much larger than angus and much faster than bison. They are ugly as sin but we had several steers that had a hanging weight near 980 at 2 years. Some had soft floppy horns, weirdest thing I’ve seen. We had a regular manual squeeze, but I could see how a hydraulic press is the way to go.