What makes a Master?

[E0richt]

Someone can

- fight.
- teach his/her students how to fight.

These requirements eliminate those who:

- can fight, but doesn't know how to teach.
- knows how to teach but is not a fighter himself/herself.

I don't know about the second.... angelo dundee was not a fighter but could teach / train muhamed Ali.... I think we can find other similar situations.

 

[Buka]

I don't know about the second.... angelo dundee was not a fighter but could teach / train muhamed Ali.... I think we can find other similar situations.

That’s a good point. And I think as a cornerman specifically, Dundee was a true Master. Not just for his cornering skills, but for instinctively knowing when to say little or nothing in the corner between rounds.

Fighters rarely, if ever, listen to their cornermen. We nod like we do, but usually don’t give too much of a damn what they’re saying.

 

[Tony Dismukes]

Fighters rarely, if ever, listen to their cornermen. We nod like we do, but usually don’t give too much of a damn what they’re saying.

I've only been a cornerman 4 times, but that matches my experience.

 

[skribs]

Fighters rarely, if ever, listen to their cornermen. We nod like we do, but usually don’t give too much of a damn what they’re saying.

Huh?

 

[E0richt]

That’s a good point. And I think as a cornerman specifically, Dundee was a true Master. Not just for his cornering skills, but for instinctively knowing when to say little or nothing in the corner between rounds.

Fighters rarely, if ever, listen to their cornermen. We nod like we do, but usually don’t give too much of a damn what they’re saying.

Well lets see... During the first Ali liston matchup Ali wanted to quit because something got in his eyes (I think from listons gloves). Dundee told him no and to stay away til his eyes cleared. Ali listened to him... So not unheard of.

 

[E0richt]

I've only been a cornerman 4 times, but that matches my experience.

Probably why buster Douglas won against tyson... So just curious... How did your fighter do? Is he a name I would recognize?

 

[Tony Dismukes]

Probably why buster Douglas won against tyson... So just curious... How did your fighter do? Is he a name I would recognize?

Probably not. I cornered a friend in his first amateur Muay Thai fight, a student in his first 2 amateur boxing matches, and another friend in a pro MMA fight. You might know him only if you’re familiar with the regional MMA scene in the Kentucky/Ohio/Michigan area. He’s been pretty successful at that level but has never gotten signed with a major promotion like Bellator or the UFC.

 

[skribs]

Probably not. I cornered a friend in his first amateur Muay Thai fight, a student in his first 2 amateur boxing matches, and another friend in a pro MMA fight. You might know him only if you’re familiar with the regional MMA scene in the Kentucky/Ohio/Michigan area. He’s been pretty successful at that level but has never gotten signed with a major promotion like Bellator or the UFC.

"You wouldn't know him, he goes to a different federation."