In self defense situations, sure.
So by that argument, you would be OK with killing an unborn fetus if it involved self defense (not your business) but not OK with killing an unborn fetus if self defense was not involved?
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In self defense situations, sure.
What about a female's right to make decisions about what she does with her body? Is everyone okay with the idea that being pregnant strips a woman of her rights?
My religion teaches that personhood is bestowed by a Creator, not a process. I'm willing to go with that. A human fetus is a person. Ending that life is killing a person. Murder? I'm not ready to make that statement.
Religious prohibitions against abortion are rather flexible.The Catholic Church has hardly been consistent in its teaching in this regard; in fact, for the Church, the equation of all abortions with murder is relatively new.
I'm sure you're right, but not sure how it is relevant. Are you suggesting that I should not abide by the rules of my faith because they changed them? Or that no one should cite religious values for being anti-abortion because not all religions agree with them?
Laws may change, but the current Canonical law is what applies to me. It so happens that I am willing to go along with the current prohibition on abortion as well the reasoning given by the Church for it. If Canon law were to change, I'd consider it at that time.
The words used for "breath," and "human" in Hebrew are related-both imply breathing air. The same could be said for Biblical (koine) Greek....I don't know abobut the Chinese
I'm just saying it hasn't always been that way-not even close.
And I'm still asking why that matters. If it doesn't matter, what is the point of bringing it up?
I'm in the pro-choice camp, my rational is that rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being.
A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born.
The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn).
Inasmuch as "pro-life" in re abortion is a modern concept, including to the Catholic church and other religious organizations, protestations from others notwithstanding, it's relevant. The point being that the Catholic Church taught that abortion was okay, and not a mortal sin, right up until 140 years ago....ditto just about everyone else.
You appear to be attempting to undermine any claim to religious belief as a valid reason to choose to be pro-life by showing that religion wasn't always that way. I'm not sure how to respond - if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his butt on the ground when he hopped, I guess. Yes, it wasn't always that way. It is now.
When I was 17 years old my ex-girlfriend broke the news to me that she was pregnant. She was 16 at the time. I was a young drug-addict who had been kicked out of high school and whose only source of income at that time was dealing (don't worry things changed a lot after that. Feel free to ask me about it sometime.)
A fetus is a being. It is a new life, unique, and human.
If it comes down the the mother's life or the fetus, it's not that hard of a choice to everyone involved. They aren't weighted the same. One has years of experience and knowledge. The other one's blank and can only be weighed on potential.I'm about as pro women's rights as one gets, but it's always struck me as odd that the only way people seem to have to defend a woman's right to choose is by de-humanizing the life in the womb. If you say it's human people seem to say it's not okay, if you say it's not people seem to find abortion acceptable. I have never been able to say the life in a womb is not human and none of the rationale's for it have ever been convincing to me.
Actually, I'm attempting to show how something as variable as "belief" simply cannot, and should not have the force of law. If, for more than 1400 years, the Catholic Church had no injunction against abortion whatsoever, why should its current viewpoint have any impact at all upon a legal question?
Granted, the law is also variable-at one time, duels were permitted in a variety of places-and more's the pity.