What do you consider spiritual?

[JowGaWolf]

I’ve got great friends and confidantes, I want a fixer!

Everything can be fixed, but it won't always be fixed in the way that we want it.

 

[Holmejr]

"And kill them."

Joker, Full Metal Jacket.

Born to Kill on his helmet, but wears a peace symbol on his jacket.

Mankind hasn’t changed one iota since the beginning of mankind. My point exactly.
Great movie btw!

 

[windwalker099]

Everything can be fixed, but it won't always be fixed in the way that we want it.

an interesting view...reflecting what might seem to be a western respective.

For contrast

(Chapter 29)

將欲取天下而為之，吾見其不得已。天下神器，不可為也。為者敗之，執者失之。是以聖人無為，故無敗；無執，故無失。

"Those who wish to take control of the world and act upon it, I see that they will not succeed.
The world is a sacred vessel, not to be acted upon.
Those who act on it will fail.
Those who hold on to it will lose it.

Therefore, the sage does not act and thus does not fail; He does not hold on and thus does not lose."

"wu wei" (無為)"
"non-action" or "effortless action"

 

[JowGaWolf]

an interesting view...reflecting what might seem to be a western respective.

For contrast

(Chapter 29)

將欲取天下而為之，吾見其不得已。天下神器，不可為也。為者敗之，執者失之。是以聖人無為，故無敗；無執，故無失。

"Those who wish to take control of the world and act upon it, I see that they will not succeed.
The world is a sacred vessel, not to be acted upon.
Those who act on it will fail.
Those who hold on to it will lose it.

Therefore, the sage does not act and thus does not fail; He does not hold on and thus does not lose."

"wu wei" (無為)"
"non-action" or "effortless action"

I'm pretty sure my view is not a Western View.

"Western thought is that everything can be fixed as they see believe it should be." I'm of the mindset that things can be fixed, but it's not always to our liking or agreement. "Everythig can be fixed......" as I see it understands that we sometimes do more harm "Fixing Stuff." I'm also of the mindset that the element of the fix is sometime horrible but necessary

 

[Gyakuto]

How urgent is this problem you need fixing? Only I know a guy...

Is it…the great…Elon Musk?

 

[windwalker099]

I'm pretty sure my view is not a Western View.

Wouldn't it be something that others would note, rather than what one thinks is or is not?

Not to say either way is better, only noting the differences according to what one posts,
contrasted with other cultural ideas and belief systems.

 

[JowGaWolf]

Wouldn't it be something that others would note, rather than what one thinks is or is not?

Not to say either way is better, only noting the differences according to what one posts,
contrasted with other cultural ideas and belief systems.

Only if the differences that are perceived are accurate.

 

[Buka]

Muggeridge:
“The depravity of man is at once the most empirically verifiable reality but at the same time the most intellectually resisted fact.”

That collection plate sends people all over the world, in places most would not chose to go, to help people few even think about.

Help in what way? But bless them for helping.