What do you consider spiritual?

When they talk about ‘faith’ in Zen, they’re often referring to unquestioning acceptance of the methods they employ in awakening.
Faith doesn't require a God. Faith is just a belief or trust in something or someone, often without requiring empirical evidence or proof.
When they talk about ‘faith’ in Zen, they’re often referring to unquestioning acceptance of the methods they employ in awakening.

I don’t consider Zen (Rinzai/Soto) to be a religion - there’s no Deity, no speculation on an afterlife and no scripture. I don’t know enough about Daoism to have an opinion on that.
I don't think having a Deity is needed in order to be considered a religion. I often Joke about Atheism being a religion because it has a belief system and doctrines. Atheism requires the person to believe that there are no deities, gods, or spirits. Many of the Atheist groups have regular meetings, discussions, and events.

Scientology is considered a religion by its own followers. Both Atheism and Scientology requires the faith and belief that they are not wrong about gods, deities, and spirits.

Zen (Rinzai/Soto). I had to look this up. What he says is similar to how I see a lot of stuff. First do it and then write about it vs writing about it from an outside perspective without experience doing it.

I don't know if this guy is accurate, but I like most of the things he touched on. A lot of what he says are things I've naturally come across in my life.

Aspects of Enlightenment in Zen: Some of you may have already experienced this.

Direct Experience: Enlightenment is achieved through direct, personal experience rather than intellectual understanding.

Present Moment Awareness: Enlightenment is closely associated with being fully present in the moment, free from attachments to past or future. (This what happens when I train)

Everyday Life: Enlightenment is not seen as a distant goal but as something that can be realized in everyday activities and interactions. (marital arts training and how it influences who we are)

This may sound familiar to some of you
 
That’s the way to do it, but as, perhaps a 16-18 year old.

Which did you plump for?

It would be nice to say I picked the church that touched my heart, or the one that I felt part of. Or even the one that had the coolest stain glass windows.

Instead, I picked the one all the kids in my neighborhood went to.
 

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