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What you'll see at a lot of MMA clubs now is 'submission wrestling', which is basically a synthesis of all three styles(mostly bjj/wrestling I guess, but we have a judo guy where I train)Do you think BJJ really is incorporating a lot of Judo throws? I haven't paid much attention, but don't see a lot of takedowns in my research. I'd like to think it is, because (as you pointed out) the rule changes are changing Judo in a way I don't like.
What you'll see at a lot of MMA clubs now is 'submission wrestling', which is basically a synthesis of all three styles(mostly bjj/wrestling I guess, but we have a judo guy where I train)
What you'll see at a lot of MMA clubs now is 'submission wrestling', which is basically a synthesis of all three styles(mostly bjj/wrestling I guess, but we have a judo guy where I train)
Hmm, I'd have thought BJJ would be the better marketing. That's almost certainly true around here (unless the whole place is marketed as MMA), but our area does tend to lag behind trends, so maybe it's different elsewhere?That is happening to a lot of non-MMA clubs as well. There's quite a few people who trained in BJJ, got their black belt and opened up schools that don't have BJJ in their name at all. They either just call it Jiujitsu or Submission grappling instead.
Hmm, I'd have thought BJJ would be the better marketing. That's almost certainly true around here (unless the whole place is marketed as MMA), but our area does tend to lag behind trends, so maybe it's different elsewhere?
Solid display of BJJ takedowns vs striking.
I've never come across a JJJ or wrestling system where the goal is to get on top of someone and GNP them into a submission, so I have to believe that the Brazilians developed this on their own
But considering that back in the 80s we had something that was nothing like a new idea, it was just called "get someone on the floor, sit on them and hit them until they give up".
Allow me to assure you that, from my own personal experience, this Super Secret Ninja Technique existed at least 20 years before that.
I suspect this was originally developed by Og (the REAL OG) when he whooped Ug.
I know it's an older post, but it's still relevant.
Unfortunately, that is far from a solid display of striking.
Do you know anything about the guys involved - like with regard to what level they're considered to be?
GNP being "ground 'n' pound" I assume?
I'll credit the Brazilians for developing the catchy name.
But considering that back in the 80s we had something that was nothing like a new idea, it was just called "get someone on the floor, sit on them and hit them until they give up".
Doesn't mean it doesn't work, just that nobody can be legitimately credited with the idea...
Who is "we"?
I was talking about the hierarchy system (offense: takedown, move to positional dominance, submit/defense: recover, guard, move to positional dominance, submit), not the GNP specifically.
The guy was a boxer who was taking lessons in Japan with a Bjj instructor. After class the boxer asked to go a few rounds with the BJJ instructor to make sure what he was learning would work against someone trying to punch them.
"We" was kids at school having scraps.
And the "hierarchy system" is just putting names to the things people have been doing for aeons - there's an order that works, you can't change it around and expect the same outcome.