I totally get you man. I was making a generalization.
I know dude, but somehow I still felt the need to clarify. :asian: Circumstances where I'm living now, is a trap. I go out looking for a job I get accused of screwing around, I go out to help some people/friends who need it and I have the time to do so, I still get accused of screwing around. Been accused of NOT looking even though I am whenever it's possible. It's frustrating as hell and my head hurts from banging on the wall, keyboard and any other thing that is within reach.
Here is a basic flaw in the logic being used: "If you are dissatisfied with the way our economy is going, you must support these protesters." Yes, I am dissatisfied, but no, that does not mean I must support these numskulls.
Another variant apparently posits that if all the solutions tried so far have yielded negative results, then this must be the solution. Uh, no.
And the final insult to logic is the exasperated utterance, "Well, we have to do something." No, we do not. If we are on fire, pouring gasoline on ourselves is 'doing something', but it's not very smart. We do not have to do anything if we cannot do the right thing.
In order for evil to flourish good men need do nothing. As you say "we have to do something"... but saying we don't HAVE to is leaving things to run their course and a lot more people hurt. Question is just what IS the "right thing"? Doing nothing? Get up in the morning go to work every day of the week and do the yard work on the weekends then do it all over again? Fine for those who HAVE work to go to. A home to do yard work in (if applicable), triple A credit or whatever that so called "credit score" says is a good number to have. Just mosey on through life and if the government is screwing things up financially and letting good healthy young men go off to a far-away land to die for a bunch of people who'd rather NOT have them there in the first place... well to me that's just burying your head in the sand and hoping nobody sees your *** up in the air and decides that it might be fun to screw with it next. Our beloved Constitution says we have the right to stand up and ***** and moan if we're not happy with the government at present. Our founding fathers wrote that line in specifically because they got tired of being called traitors when they attempted the same thing in their own home country before crossing the ocean and leaving everything else behind because everything else behind became intolerable. Then a lot of them fought and died when family, friends followed them over the ocean and tried to impose the same thing because they still believed in the way things were back home.
We're not the only ones dissatisfied with how governments are doing things. As per my link in an earlier post on this thread we can see how it is growing. It was inevitable that it happening here too.
Hey if conservatives are calling it class warfare, and the democrats doing nothing to change things, both sides not wanting change, not speaking against the protest, and the media pushing that agenda, doing the bidding, it is an obvious slap in the face things need to change. Thank God some people have the nuts to due the American thing, to exercise their freedom to protest (peacefully) against the condition of this country and the government. It is long over due, organized or not, morons or not. At one time this country was taxed on tea, that caused a momentous revolution, changing and giving birth to this country. Something we have forgotten.
Thomas Jefferson 3rd President (1801-1809) said, periodic revolution, “at least once every 20 years,” was “a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.”
I thought I remembered the quote just not exactly. Either way... it does take balls to stand up and say "I protest!" Thing is... it shouldn't have to take balls to stand up and say "I don't like what's going on here." Bravery against the face of government shouldn't exist at all. If people are calling those who are protesting "brave" then what does that say about them? They're scared to do the same thing even though they feel the same frustration, anger, resentment that the protesters are. To me, that says a helluva lot right there about how the government is getting control over the people. "Fear, will keep the local systems in line..." ~ Grand Moff Tarkin.
People are growing tired of it, promises promises every 4 years and nothing changes except the face on the screen. Question is are these so called imbeciles willing to die for what they're protesting ... whatever the hell it is?
Not every problem has a government solution. Government may have gotten us into this problem, but that does not mean that government can get us out.
In the meantime, these protesters are imbeciles of the first water. The fact that we have problems does not grant them legitimacy. Another group that sees we are in trouble, thinks they know the reason, and offers protest to speak about it is Fred Phelps' "God Hates Fags" group. They, likewise, have not 'drunk the koolaid'. Just because a group is protesting and offensive does not mean they have a legitimate point.
The concept "Look, these guys are different and bold! We must listen to them and show them respect," is not logical, it's based on pure emotion. I reject it. Lots of morons are different and bold and not worthy of respect.
True that... remember the media once getting all the interviews on tape/disk/whatever!! are going to be awfully damned selective about who they're going to show saying whatever. "No, this guy is making a helluva lot of sense, so we'll cut him from the segment/clip, but that guy who couldn't string 3 words together... lets put him after the ditzy blonde chick in the hot tight jeans who had difficulty putting two words together."
Bill I understand, not every problem is solved by the government. That isn't the problem, it is the government making problems.
This I have to slightly disagree with you John... remember those making the problem were voted into office by the ones who are complaining so they're just as responsible for the problem. Again our Constitution says we can vote them out... but we don't. It's like the gasoline analogy... unless you pull that sealed can of gasoline out of the burning room... eventually it's going to go boom!
