Steve
Mostly Harmless
Erm... It’s an interesting idea, but….
This is why modern self defence trends get on my nerves.
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HighKick
Master Black Belt
Could it happen? I aver it already has several times with miniscule differences. There are people in this world who don't need a reason to pop a cap.
CIA headquarters shooting - Wikipedia
CIA 'Trained' people sat in their car while a person shot the people in the car in front of them and then walked to the next car and then the next ...
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It happens.
Planned
Road Rage
Insanity
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See this is the key difference as fucked up as it is you can at least follow the line of logic and understand why they did it.CIA headquarters shooting - Wikipedia
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CIA 'Trained' people sat in their car while a person shot the people in the car in front of them and then walked to the next car and then the next ...
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It happens.
Planned
Road Rage
Insanity
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Highkick has the more accurate idea where some people will kill you just cause you breathed on them a little too hard. Which is baffling to me.
Mostly laugh, or at least chuckle. Crime is down, but it still gets a lot of press. Which gives the impression that crime is up. And things like road rage shootings get tons of attention.
That's the other thing, statistically violent crime is down over all and we live in probably the most peaceful time in human history, yet people like to act like everyone is trying to kill them. Personally I thought it was because most people had some goddamn sense and then I see nonsense like this.
Hot Lunch
Master Black Belt
If you were a child the 80's, all the PSA's had you convinced that there were adults cruising everywhere looking for a child to snatch up. This was in the aftermath of Adam Walsh and Steven Staynor.
Moral panic is nothing new. One thing I can't stand hearing is anything along the lines of "people are crazy these days." I'm fairly certain that the percentage of "crazy" in the human population has always been the same, and that things were actually worse in the past due to continuous improvements in behavioral health treatment.
Wing Woo Gar
Senior Master
If someone “fingers” you? Holy colloquialism Batman! You are going to shoot them with your “urine filled pistol”? Good grief! This is Friendly MT!
Wing Woo Gar
Senior Master
And…there it is…Oh, I left my last gym because of poor cleanliness and if I had a urine-filled water pistol, I’d’ve soaked the belligerent cleaner who insisted she’d cleaned the place even though the grass and mud on the floor suggested otherwise .
Wing Woo Gar
Senior Master
That’s pretty unlikely now I know I’ve irritated you
Wing Woo Gar
Senior Master
Said the kettle…Best to ignore him when he’s stirring the pot. He calms down eventually.
Wing Woo Gar
Senior Master
See what I did there?Best to ignore him when he’s stirring the pot. He calms down eventually.
Running into someone unhinged isn’t likely for people that aren’t out and about. Running into someone unhinged isn’t something that happens every day.
But the unhinged are out there. For those unlucky enough to be around them, or run into them, or respond to them as the good guys called in to quell the situation, it can be tricky.
When you work in Law Enforcement, when the unhinged go off, the public doesn’t call Ghostbusters, they call you. Depending on where you’re policing, it happens every day and you or your coworkers, the guys you laugh and joke with in the locker room, are suddenly in odd situations. Some of those situations can be frightening. If you do it long enough, it’s just another day at work.
We are an odd species.
But the unhinged are out there. For those unlucky enough to be around them, or run into them, or respond to them as the good guys called in to quell the situation, it can be tricky.
When you work in Law Enforcement, when the unhinged go off, the public doesn’t call Ghostbusters, they call you. Depending on where you’re policing, it happens every day and you or your coworkers, the guys you laugh and joke with in the locker room, are suddenly in odd situations. Some of those situations can be frightening. If you do it long enough, it’s just another day at work.
We are an odd species.
And that the goddamn truth. Capable of great good and great insanity.
Steve
Mostly Harmless
ha. Said the other kettle.
Is crime down in the USA? Yes, it certainly is. However, with regard to road rage shootings? Up dramatically.
www.thetrace.org
"Someone was shot in a road rage incident on average every 18 hours in 2023, up from once every four days in 2014."
Now, to be clear, road rage shooting are still rare in a nation of over 300 million people. In my metro area, Detroit, there were 63 incidents between 2014 and 2023. That's not a lot for nearly a decade.
But the trend is up, not down. And the fact remains that a person with poor impulse control or anger management issues who has a gun is more dangerous that the same person who doesn't have one.
Road Rage Shootings Have Surged Over the Past Decade
Road rage shootings are on the rise across the United States as drivers increasingly turn to firearms to vent their frustrations — with often tragic consequences. Between 2014 and 2023, the number of people shot in road rage incidents surged more than 400 percent, from 92 to 481, according to a...
www.thetrace.org
"Someone was shot in a road rage incident on average every 18 hours in 2023, up from once every four days in 2014."
Now, to be clear, road rage shooting are still rare in a nation of over 300 million people. In my metro area, Detroit, there were 63 incidents between 2014 and 2023. That's not a lot for nearly a decade.
But the trend is up, not down. And the fact remains that a person with poor impulse control or anger management issues who has a gun is more dangerous that the same person who doesn't have one.
Why road rage specifically?!Is crime down in the USA? Yes, it certainly is. However, with regard to road rage shootings? Up dramatically.
Road Rage Shootings Have Surged Over the Past Decade
Road rage shootings are on the rise across the United States as drivers increasingly turn to firearms to vent their frustrations — with often tragic consequences. Between 2014 and 2023, the number of people shot in road rage incidents surged more than 400 percent, from 92 to 481, according to a...
"Someone was shot in a road rage incident on average every 18 hours in 2023, up from once every four days in 2014."
Now, to be clear, road rage shooting are still rare in a nation of over 300 million people. In my metro area, Detroit, there were 63 incidents between 2014 and 2023. That's not a lot for nearly a decade.
But the trend is up, not down. And the fact remains that a person with poor impulse control or anger management issues who has a gun is more dangerous that the same person who doesn't have one.
Wing Woo Gar
Senior Master
Touche’ha. Said the other kettle.
Steve
Mostly Harmless
good point. I tend to think a lot of road rage is like a lot of bar fights. Very few bar fights are truly random.Is crime down in the USA? Yes, it certainly is. However, with regard to road rage shootings? Up dramatically.
Road Rage Shootings Have Surged Over the Past Decade
Road rage shootings are on the rise across the United States as drivers increasingly turn to firearms to vent their frustrations — with often tragic consequences. Between 2014 and 2023, the number of people shot in road rage incidents surged more than 400 percent, from 92 to 481, according to a...
"Someone was shot in a road rage incident on average every 18 hours in 2023, up from once every four days in 2014."
Now, to be clear, road rage shooting are still rare in a nation of over 300 million people. In my metro area, Detroit, there were 63 incidents between 2014 and 2023. That's not a lot for nearly a decade.
But the trend is up, not down. And the fact remains that a person with poor impulse control or anger management issues who has a gun is more dangerous that the same person who doesn't have one.
Speaking just about driving, if folks would get past their misguided sense of road justice, using their cars to block lanes, slow speeders down, or keep people from even the appearance of cutting a line, we would all be safer on the roads. It’s juvenile.
Don’t get me wrong. Guys who split lanes on their bikes (where it isn’t legal like here), speed, weave in busy traffic, cut lanes, camp in the left lane, etc. they are d-bags. But when you retaliate and drive aggressively in response, you are as much the problem as them.
Just be friendly, even when people aren’t friendly to you. Driving isn’t a competition. No good comes from getting worked up behind the wheel. You end up pissed off. The other guy is also probably pissed off. You’re both telling a version of the story where the other person is the a-hole. And sometimes, rare as it may be, someone will be seriously hurt or killed.
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