The rant thread

[kouryuu]

http://www.bujinkanadelaide.org.au/ Ed Lomax in Adelaide

http://www.courageousheart.com.au/index.html Gillian Booth in Sydney

http://www.mudojo.graycastle.com/ Peter Meden in South Yarra??

http://www.komichidojo.com.au/index.html Peter White in Pymont, Sydney.

http://www.timbathurst.net/ Tim Bathurst in Melbourne

There's more but these guys are all interconnected and GOOD!:cheers: , they've all got links to others, also, 4 of these guys lived and trained in Japan for many years

 

[Grey Eyed Bandit]

As has been stated before...asking "what if" types of questions is what bitter, self-righteous 40-something beginners and cocky MPS (Male Pride Syndrome) victims do. What you should be asking is "if he is able to do x at this point, what have I missed/where have I gone wrong?"
If your instructor is worth training with, he'll provide you with an answer and you'll learn more about taijutsu. If he is incapable of doing so, you've just learned more about the Bujinkan.

 

[Grey Eyed Bandit]

I've just solved the issue of overcrowding in the Honbu - why don't we have all the people standing on the sidelines going "well, what Soke means is that..." and "you can pick up so much just by standing here and observing" head on home to Hatsumi's place and chat with him over a cup of tea or something. Then the rest of us will have plenty of space.

 

[Dale Seago]

http://www.bujinkanadelaide.org.au/ Ed Lomax in Adelaide

http://www.courageousheart.com.au/index.html Gillian Booth in Sydney

http://www.mudojo.graycastle.com/ Peter Meden in South Yarra??

http://www.komichidojo.com.au/index.html Peter White in Pymont, Sydney.

http://www.timbathurst.net/ Tim Bathurst in Melbourne

There's more but these guys are all interconnected and GOOD!:cheers: , they've all got links to others, also, 4 of these guys lived and trained in Japan for many years

I don't know either of the Peters but I do know, Ed, Gillian, and Tim; and they are VERY good indeed!

 

[kouryuu]

Hi Dale, Peter Meden was in Japan when we were, he translated for Nagato Sensei and Oguri Sensei, about 5'10" and slim.

 

[Dale Seago]

Hi Dale, Peter Meden was in Japan when we were, he translated for Nagato Sensei and Oguri Sensei, about 5'10" and slim.

Ah, I do know who he is then -- okay then, that's four out of the five I can personally endorse/recommend.

 

[bencole]

http://www.bujinkanadelaide.org.au/ Ed Lomax in Adelaide

http://www.courageousheart.com.au/index.html Gillian Booth in Sydney

http://www.mudojo.graycastle.com/ Peter Meden in South Yarra??

http://www.komichidojo.com.au/index.html Peter White in Pymont, Sydney.

http://www.timbathurst.net/ Tim Bathurst in Melbourne

That's a good list, Norm.

Don't forget Andrew Macdonald, Greg Alcorn, and Anthony Brien though.... All have several years in Japan as well. Duncan Mitchell, I believe, is currently living in Japan again, so when he gets back, he's another option, imo....

All in all, there are quite a few very skilled Aussies with significant ground time in Japan.

Here is a pretty good list, imo.

http://www.komichidojo.com.au/dojos.html

Hope that helps!

-ben

 

[Grey Eyed Bandit]

I just can't stand this any more. The self-righteousness and hypocrisy displayed by proverbial Bujinkan "choir boys" online makes me sick.

During my 2004 Japan visit I was sitting on a train from Ayase to Kashiwa on my way back to the place I was staying, when a well-known 15th dan and one of the guys started having a conversation about above-average-sized parts of the female anatomy and the visual mediums in which they're put on display. After a few minutes, a small supposedly Japanese lady stands up and says in perfect English "interesting conversation, I'll see you guys tomorrow".

A few days later during a Honbu session, the Western 15th dan in charge (not the one just mentioned) not only picks me apart in front of the group of about 20 people, but makes very graphic references to his son's alleged sexual exploits with mermaids.

Earlier this year, yet another 15th dan says the exact same thing I said related to another individual's lack of flexibility in front of a group of 23 people, whereas I said it in a group of maybe seven or eight people during a break in training, upon which it nearly landed me in some deep trouble.

Now let me say right away that I personally do not have any problem at all with what was actually said. My question is - whom are the people yapping on and on about "common sense" and "decency" and "benevolent/righteous hearts" trying to fool?

 

[Dale Seago]

Are you daring to suggest that 15th dans are just ordinary human beings?

Quick, someone call the Holy Inquisition, there's a heretic on the loose!!!

 

[Carol]

Are you daring to suggest that 15th dans are just ordinary human beings?

Quick, someone call the Holy Inquisition, there's a heretic on the loose!!!

I dunno...demonstrating sex with mermaids as a definition of flexibility....ain't no misunderstanding that.

 

[Rich Parsons]

Are you daring to suggest that 15th dans are just ordinary human beings?

Quick, someone call the Holy Inquisition, there's a heretic on the loose!!!

What he Said!

 

[bencole]

I just can't stand this any more. The self-righteousness and hypocrisy displayed by proverbial Bujinkan "choir boys" online makes me sick.

What are the "online choir boys" and how do they relate to these three 15th dans?

-ben

 

[Grey Eyed Bandit]

What are the "online choir boys"

They're the same type of people who take serious offense to the stuff Dale wrote elsewhere recently. And those who pose as the self-proclaimed guardians of morality and decency, frequently with subtle religious undercurrents.

and how do they relate to these three 15th dans?

-ben

They probably don't, since they're apparently unaware of them having said these things.

 

[Grey Eyed Bandit]

Are you daring to suggest that 15th dans are just ordinary human beings?

Quick, someone call the Holy Inquisition, there's a heretic on the loose!!!

It's funny BTW that all the people handing out the cult/sect accusations towards the Bujinkan never seem to mention the fact that all sects are fundamentally about fornication.

 

[bencole]

They're the same type of people who take serious offense to the stuff Dale wrote elsewhere recently. And those who pose as the self-proclaimed guardians of morality and decency, frequently with subtle religious undercurrents.

So this isn't a "martialtalk.com" specific rant, and more of what you've seen elsewhere?

-ben

 

[Grey Eyed Bandit]

Pretty much.

 

[Bigshadow]

Dale, I missed it on Kutaki. Just now I read the first page, your post and the others on Kutaki.

Wow! That is very creative! I echo kutaki.Cuthalion's sentiment. That was a very witty and crafty way of presenting the truth.

I didn't bother to read much beyond the first page. I drew my own conclusions and left it at that.

 

[Grey Eyed Bandit]

Just for clarification...the negative reactions to Dale's writing was just one example of all the sanctimonious BS you encounter nowadays.

Another telltale sign is whenever someone claims to be "shocked and disgusted".

 

[Bujingodai]

So if the poem displeased you, or you didn't care for the message you are sanctimonious?

Bujinkan Wonderteam Unite!!!

Well I didn't care too much for the poem myself and it did lead me to think it was perverted but I gather I don't have the true heart for budo or the mind to analylze it maturely.
Thank God for that.

Tell you what, and I have nothing against Dale. I have said many places his is a class act. It doesn't mean I have to like everything he says.

Post the poem in the General discussion again and garner a total reaction

 

[Grey Eyed Bandit]

So if the poem displeased you, or you didn't care for the message you are sanctimonious?

Yes, if you were "shocked and disgusted" but have no qualms about pretending to hack people into pieces with samurai swords or using the word kunoichi.*







* Nine plus one/one more than nine. Let's just say it's got something to do with bodily openings.