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But my feeling is...yes...likely the essential moves in those other forms are also found in the longer Tang Yik form.
And yet I look at the whole Tang Yik form and think "it doesn't need to be that elaborate!" There should be a happy medium in there somewhere!
Also the history of the Tang Yik lineage notes that Chi Sim's pole form was combined with a spear form at some point.
Another school of thought says that Wing Chun was originally a loose collection of techniques and short drills....San Sik
I've heard it said that when Leung Jan was teaching the San Sik format in Ku Lo village he was returning to an older version of the system.
This would make it very natural to have originally learned both the knives and the pole in a similar format.....short drills or San Sik with applications that were later organized into longer forms.
As I pointed out, it could be just as likely that Wing Chun started as San Sik
How does the article's info "jive" with discussion we had further up this thread?
Originally Wing Chun only had the empty hand methods. The BJD were added in first, but it is now unknown who incorporated them into the system.
... From what I've studied, what we do comes from the weapons, not the other way around. If you look outside of WC, this is pretty consistent across many TCMA.