Sport vs. Street

[CB Jones]

I kicked him very hard, for something's you don't get a warning

I'm ok with that.

It's the acting big and bad and threatening people with the hope they back down. I don't care for.

Diffuse or react swiftly.

 

[JP3]

Hate that term. It mocks the handicap

Snowflake?

J/K It was there.

Has anyone else noticed how Fried Rice's position paper got yanked sideways in the past 3 pages or so? How did that happen?

We're sort of off on De-escalation is a Wimpization of people, or definitional vaguenesses influencing the argument armentarium (this between Gerry & Drop).

Carry on, though I do really want to know what Fried Rice's original point was/is, sometime. I just had a confusing thought... I may end up agreeing with it.

Gerry, Drop is concealing a razor sharp mind behind his pattern of 1-sentence paragraph structureing of statements. Don't fall for it. It is a sham, the hardcore persona. Well, maybe not the persona, but the online personality.

Oh, I was going to ask OakTree.... where, generally, do, or did, you live when you developed this perspective on life and tactical situations?

 

[CB Jones]

Snowflake?

Father of a handicapped child.

 

[Steve]

OK, Drop. "Going Full Retard" has now been added to my lexicon of really cool sayings to use during class, though I'll have to be certain of my crowd. No snowflakes, which is another term for which I'm still trying to get an understanding of what it actually is, though I've made up my own definition.

As to the post where you first used that, Agreed on all points.

Snowflakes is a reference to everyone wanting to be special and unique.

 

[JowGaWolf]

These seems to be Amateur level, MMA fighters to maybe semi-pros who all, probably has no chance to ever make it in even the lowest card of the UFC. Not even Bellator.

Now pick 5 of your best students from your self defense class or TMA, of similar sizes. Who would win?

My team would win, because someone would get doubled teamed right at the start lol. I would have someone hang in the back with the sole purpose of sucker punching the first person that is attacking the guy in front. The guy that would be targeting me will either follow the guy in the back or he will try to double team someone else. The goal would be to take out one person as fast as possible.

 

[drop bear]

Isn't there a middle ground between never backing down and always backing down? I think there's room in the decision making process for critical thinking skills.

Yeah it is called nuance. And we dont do that here.

 

[drop bear]

Hate that term. It mocks the handicap

Yeah so does steady eddie. But what are you going to do?

 

[drop bear]

OK, Drop. "Going Full Retard" has now been added to my lexicon of really cool sayings to use during class, though I'll have to be certain of my crowd. No snowflakes, which is another term for which I'm still trying to get an understanding of what it actually is, though I've made up my own definition.

As to the post where you first used that, Agreed on all points.

I assume snowflakes refer to fight club.

 

[drop bear]

Snowflake?

J/K It was there.

Has anyone else noticed how Fried Rice's position paper got yanked sideways in the past 3 pages or so? How did that happen?

We're sort of off on De-escalation is a Wimpization of people, or definitional vaguenesses influencing the argument armentarium (this between Gerry & Drop).

Carry on, though I do really want to know what Fried Rice's original point was/is, sometime. I just had a confusing thought... I may end up agreeing with it.

Gerry, Drop is concealing a razor sharp mind behind his pattern of 1-sentence paragraph structureing of statements. Don't fall for it. It is a sham, the hardcore persona. Well, maybe not the persona, but the online personality.

Oh, I was going to ask OakTree.... where, generally, do, or did, you live when you developed this perspective on life and tactical situations?

Yeah secretly I am a criminal matermind.

 

[drop bear]

My team would win, because someone would get doubled teamed right at the start lol. I would have someone hang in the back with the sole purpose of sucker punching the first person that is attacking the guy in front. The guy that would be targeting me will either follow the guy in the back or he will try to double team someone else. The goal would be to take out one person as fast as possible.

I am supprised there isn't more of that sort of tactic.

 

[JowGaWolf]

Movig closer to street are these organised gang fights.

Interesting some of the methods they employ.

I assume they are linked up like that so nobody runs.

Play the video in slow motion and watch around the :35 second mark. You'll see the same tactic that I was talking about. lol.

I think you'll like this one

And this one lol

or this

 

[Tez3]

Gerry, Drop is concealing a razor sharp mind behind his pattern of 1-sentence paragraph structureing of statements. Don't fall for it. It is a sham, the hardcore persona. Well, maybe not the persona, but the online personality.

His stated position vis a vis discussion on here is that they are sparring matches and he likes to go in hard.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

ok someone in bar sexualy assault's your lady friend,

to de-escalate the situation you say. My dear man please refrain from touching my girl friend breast and so he does it again, so you leave, is that how it plays out?

Now you're not even trying. I think we're done here.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Isn't there a middle ground between never backing down and always backing down? I think there's room in the decision making process for critical thinking skills.

I don't think de-escalation always equals backing down. There are times that's an effective method, but there are other times it just invites bullying.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Gerry, Drop is concealing a razor sharp mind behind his pattern of 1-sentence paragraph structureing of statements. Don't fall for it. It is a sham, the hardcore persona. Well, maybe not the persona, but the online personality.

I'm aware of that. It's the more frustrating part of the situation, because he often makes really good points, and it would be lovely to have a good debate with him, but he seems often to be determined to make it an argument of who is wrong, rather than discussing the ideas and concepts and how to make use of them. I've had pages and pages of back-and-forth with him where he was apparently trying to point out how bad some of my training was, all the while describing something that was never all that close to my training...unless he was discussing a problem with a single part of my training, as it if were all of my training. I get the distinct impression that his ideas could actually help me improve some of my teaching and my own training (as points made by Steve and Tony have), but his attacks on strawmen don't get me to that.

 

[jobo]

I'm ok with that.

It's the acting big and bad and threatening people with the hope they back down. I don't care for.

Diffuse or react swiftly.

As above, really it depends what is being done and said, sometimes calming things down is appropriate, sometimes hitting them is. But reprenting strength and inviting them to a fight works quite well in shifting the phycolocal issues of feeling threatens onto them,

 

[JP3]

Father of a handicapped child.

Did you not know that "handicapped" is in itself a derogatory, belittling and minimizing term? Handicapped has been passed on for disabled.

And no, I am not making light, I am being 100% serious. I wrote a somewhat-lengthy paper on it as part of my graduate education.

But, as with any other word or set of words, they have the capability to cause pain... not from the word itself, as words themselves are not the issue, it is the concept which the word causes to form in the mind of he/she who hears the word.

I was definitely not trying to get under your skin, CB Jones... though sometimes it's well-nigh unavoidable to not do that when talking about topics and concepts and having to borrow from other such in order to explain oneself. I've got to deal with a bit of it myself, so understand, I am not coming from a bad place.

 

[jobo]

Now you're not even trying. I think we're done here.

I think its a valid and true scenario to test your always look to de escalate philosophy, perhaps I should have just left, I got in trouble with my girlfriend for kicking the guy, I got in trouble with his friends, one of which tried to glass me and i got in trouble with the door staff who ejected me . What would you have done

 

[CB Jones]

Did you not know that "handicapped" is in itself a derogatory, belittling and minimizing term? Handicapped has been passed on for disabled.

And no, I am not making light, I am being 100% serious. I wrote a somewhat-lengthy paper on it as part of my graduate education.

But, as with any other word or set of words, they have the capability to cause pain... not from the word itself, as words themselves are not the issue, it is the concept which the word causes to form in the mind of he/she who hears the word.

I was definitely not trying to get under your skin, CB Jones... though sometimes it's well-nigh unavoidable to not do that when talking about topics and concepts and having to borrow from other such in order to explain oneself. I've got to deal with a bit of it myself, so understand, I am not coming from a bad place.

You did not get under my skin.

I was only pointing out that it is frowned upon by many and will give off a negative perception of you to a lot of people by adding that to your lexicon of sayings.

And often times you do not know a persons background until too late.

 

[FriedRice]

Actually I wasn't copying your line. I was pointing out that you were doing what you claimed I was doing. You were making yourself the final authority on what my statement implies.

And, no, I didn't change my position. My position is as it was. I've tried to clarify the (perhaps overly simple) original statement by describing the concept.

Actually no, it is you who was doing that.